Supreme Court Justice Halts Birth Control Mandate in Health Care Law for Catholic Gro

[Adam]

Supreme Court Justice Halts Birth Control Mandate in Health Care Law for Catholic Group

Supreme Court justice halts birth control mandate in health care law for Catholic group.

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That's all there is at the moment. This apparently came out of a last-ditch request today before midnight.

[Adam]

A bit more detail.

[Billy Jingo]

Supreme Court Justice Halts Birth Control Mandate in Health Care Law for Catholic Group

Supreme Court justice halts birth control mandate in health care law for Catholic group.

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That's all there is at the moment. This apparently came out of a last-ditch request today before midnight.

Roberts, Catholic. Scalia, Catholic. Alito, Catholic. Thomas, Catholic. Kennedy, Catholic. Sotomayor, Catholic.

They have a decent shot of getting Catholics off the hook from the obligation of following the law.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

Hey, I can't opt out of maternity coverage to lower my premium, so how come they can opt out of contraceptive coverage?

[Adam]

Hey, I can't opt out of maternity coverage to lower my premium, so how come they can opt out of contraceptive coverage?

I can't either. I can't wait to schedule my first "free" mammogram and pap smear.

Regardless, the Constitution does guarantee people to be free from interference from the federal government with the free exercise of their religion.



Potentially interesting legal question that may arise from this if someone in a robe really sticks to the Constitution: those 22 (or however many it is) states that set up their own state exchanges may legally force Catholics to pay for contraception and abortions (to the extent that they don't violate the Hyde Amendment). It'll be fun to see how that one comes down, should that become an argument.

[scott]

Hey, I can't opt out of maternity coverage to lower my premium, so how come they can opt out of contraceptive coverage?

True.

Perhaps that socialization of maternity coverage should be addressed.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

True.

Perhaps that socialization of maternity coverage should be addressed.

Might as well decide to fight the minimum coverage limits for auto insurance. You may argue whether or not the government has the legitimate power to compel an individual to buy insurance from a for-profit corporation, but once we're down that road (and we all know that train left a long time ago), how can you quibble about the nature of the coverage that may be required? Strictly speaking, the purchase of insurance may violate Biblical prohibitions on gambling. Do you think that argument will get any Bible literalists out of mandatory auto insurance?

[Novaheart]

Roberts, Catholic. Scalia, Catholic. Alito, Catholic. Thomas, Catholic. Kennedy, Catholic. Sotomayor, Catholic.

They have a decent shot of getting Catholics off the hook from the obligation of following the law.

Meanwhile, while complaining about Jews having too much power in America....

[Novaheart]

True.

Perhaps that socialization of maternity coverage should be addressed.

Well if we're going to return to home birth and midwives then we can hardly require that housing have electricity, heat, and indoor plumbing.

[scott]

Might as well decide to fight the minimum coverage limits for auto insurance. You may argue whether or not the government has the legitimate power to compel an individual to buy insurance from a for-profit corporation, but once we're down that road (and we all know that train left a long time ago), how can you quibble about the nature of the coverage that may be required? Strictly speaking, the purchase of insurance may violate Biblical prohibitions on gambling. Do you think that argument will get any Bible literalists out of mandatory auto insurance?

I'm talking about rating and forcing people to pay for a medical scenario that will never happen.

Forcing you and me to pay for maternity coverage is like forcing us to insure our cars as if they were brand new Maseratis.

[Gramps]

It's an apples oranges comparison and doesn't work.

States mandate insurance on an individual level. You can avoid it by not owning a car.
The Federal Gov has zero to do with state mandates, other than agreeing that driving is a privilege and that the individual states have the right to restrict the privilege.

On the other hand, the Fed Gov has decided that I should be paying for maternity and female gynecological services even though I'm a 66 year old male.

[Novaheart]

I'm talking about rating and forcing people to pay for a medical scenario that will never happen.

Forcing you and me to pay for maternity coverage is like forcing us to insure our cars as if they were brand new Maseratis.

The nature of insurance is that you pay for things which aren't going to happen to you, and other people pay for things which aren't going to happen to them.

These people are claiming religious exemption as a tool in a political battle which actually has nothing to do with their religion and everything to do with their politics. Do you honestly believe that these nuns want to deny birth control to other women? No, but those fucking Bishops do.

[scott]

The nature of insurance is that you pay for things which aren't going to happen to you, and other people pay for things which aren't going to happen to them.

Actually, that's no true. The nature of insurance is to hedge against the risk of something happening.

There is ZERO risk of me becoming pregnant and there is ZERO risk of me impregnating any person.

These people are claiming religious exemption as a tool in a political battle which actually has nothing to do with their religion and everything to do with their politics.

Not true with regards to the Catholic Church, but it's funny that the negotiation always starts there with Progressives while they ignore their population control and eugenics biases.

Do you honestly believe that these nuns want to deny birth control to other women? No, but those fucking Bishops do.

Plenty of nuns do too. It's obvious you don't confer with any these days. You should, you might be surprised.

[phillygirl]

Actually, that's no true. The nature of insurance is to hedge against the risk of something happening.

There is ZERO risk of me becoming pregnant and there is ZERO risk of me impregnating any person.



Not true with regards to the Catholic Church, but it's funny that the negotiation always starts there with Progressives while they ignore their population control and eugenics biases.



Plenty of nuns do too. It's obvious you don't confer with any these days. You should, you might be surprised.

Yeah..but those nuns don't get press coverage.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I'm talking about rating and forcing people to pay for a medical scenario that will never happen.

Forcing you and me to pay for maternity coverage is like forcing us to insure our cars as if they were brand new Maseratis.

No, it's more like forcing me to carry high limits on both vehicles when HRH only drives the lightweight ancient Toyota, because she's under 25 and COULD drive my car. Well, theoretically I COULD get pregnant.