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    Out of curiosity, have you heard of this guy? And if so, what have you heard? I'm curious to know what impressions people have before they google him.

    On edit: Basically, I'm gauging the scuttlebut. Answers will not be judged on accuracy.
    Last edited by Norm dePlume; Friday, May 2, 2014, 4:24 PM.
    Enjoy.

  • #2
    Nope. Never heard of him.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
      Out of curiosity, have you heard of this guy? And if so, what have you heard? I'm curious to know what impressions people have before they google him.

      On edit: Basically, I'm gauging the scuttlebut. Answers will not be judged on accuracy.
      Economist. Wrote a book. Generic Marxist modern usage (meaning he said something about concentration of wealth being a bad thing not that he believes in the labor theory of value).
      Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

      Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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      • #4
        Krugman is a huge fan, which tells me that the greatest likelihood is that the guy is completely full of shit.


        I do know that his big beef is "inequality," which is in and of itself BS. "Inequality" is simply natural and it is impossible to eradicate it. Mao didn't ride in a rickshaw. Neither does Fidel. I rather sincerely doubt he manages to answer the simple, basic question that blows the "inequality" argument out of the water: how does Bill Gates being phenomenally wealthy somehow make anyone else poorer?

        Since the only answer to that question is "it doesn't," the entirety of the "inequality" argument is completely bogus.


        I doubt I'll be enriching him with royalties to read his diatribe against people having wealth.
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        • #5
          There it is.
          Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

          Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
            There it is.
            Indeed. The proof that the "inequality" argument is hollow and stupid is remarkably simple.
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            • #7
              Two weeks ago, I'd never heard of the guy. Then I started seeing his name pop up quite a bit. Now I'm seeing his name being used as a sort of reference marker for a school of thought. He seems to be making a big splash on the left.

              I'm going to make a prediction. I think by this time next year, the name "Piketty" will be well known among conservatives and well demonized. I think his name will join the pantheon of names that conservatives spit out to dismiss things out of hand, like Saul Alinsky or Karl Marx or Magaret Sanger or, yes, Krugman.
              Enjoy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                Two weeks ago, I'd never heard of the guy. Then I started seeing his name pop up quite a bit. Now I'm seeing his name being used as a sort of reference marker for a school of thought. He seems to be making a big splash on the left.

                I'm going to make a prediction. I think by this time next year, the name "Piketty" will be well known among conservatives and well demonized. I think his name will join the pantheon of names that conservatives spit out to dismiss things out of hand, like Saul Alinsky or Karl Marx or Magaret Sanger or, yes, Krugman.
                Yea. He will be a tribal marker. He already is, apparently.

                I say this not having read his book (or the translation, really since I think he wrote it in French). It is probably common sense stuff about the inherent instability of oligarchy and the detrimental affects of aristocracy which the Chicago School tribalists tell themselves is meritocracy.
                Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

                Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                  Yea. He will be a tribal marker. He already is, apparently.

                  I say this not having read his book (or the translation, really since I think he wrote it in French). It is probably common sense stuff about the inherent instability of oligarchy and the detrimental affects of aristocracy which the Chicago School tribalists tell themselves is meritocracy.
                  So, tell us how Bill Gates being rich somehow makes you poor.
                  It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                  In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                  Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                  Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                    Yea. He will be a tribal marker. He already is, apparently.

                    I say this not having read his book (or the translation, really since I think he wrote it in French). It is probably common sense stuff about the inherent instability of oligarchy and the detrimental affects of aristocracy which the Chicago School tribalists tell themselves is meritocracy.
                    This is why these discussions go off the rails.

                    If your view of money is so good, why don't you practice what you preach?
                    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                    -John Locke

                    "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                    -Newman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by scott View Post
                      This is why these discussions go off the rails.

                      If your view of money is so good, why don't you practice what you preach?
                      This is a discussion about Thomas Piketty. And here you are, questioning a fellow poster's qualifications to post an opinion you don't agree with.

                      Where do you think the rails are?
                      Enjoy.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                        This is a discussion about Thomas Piketty. And here you are, questioning a fellow poster's qualifications to post an opinion you don't agree with.

                        Where do you think the rails are?
                        It wasn't/isn't much of a discussion. You found someone you like and wanted to talk about. Not many have heard of him except supposedly you and Bok..maybe Adam(?). You set it up that this guy will be demonized by conservatives and will be dismissed along with those other greats "like Saul Alinsky or Karl Marx or Magaret Sanger or, yes, Krugman". Pretty poor discussion started.

                        So, instead of doing your normal round and round and roundabout on the issue, why don't you start the discussion? You can enlighten the rest of us about what you think of him and why. Just a thought.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                          This is a discussion about Thomas Piketty. And here you are, questioning a fellow poster's qualifications to post an opinion you don't agree with.
                          That's more than a stretch.

                          Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                          Where do you think the rails are?
                          Where actual discussion is. If this is yours and Bok's version of it, you're doing it wrong.
                          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                          -John Locke

                          "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                          -Newman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Michele View Post
                            It wasn't/isn't much of a discussion. You found someone you like and wanted to talk about. Not many have heard of him except supposedly you and Bok..maybe Adam(?). You set it up that this guy will be demonized by conservatives and will be dismissed along with those other greats "like Saul Alinsky or Karl Marx or Magaret Sanger or, yes, Krugman". Pretty poor discussion started.

                            So, instead of doing your normal round and round and roundabout on the issue, why don't you start the discussion? You can enlighten the rest of us about what you think of him and why. Just a thought.
                            Oh, let him troll. He gets off on having his preconceived notions proven - it's gives him street cred at DU.
                            "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                            -John Locke

                            "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                            -Newman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                              Economist. Wrote a book. Generic Marxist modern usage (meaning he said something about concentration of wealth being a bad thing not that he believes in the labor theory of value).
                              No demand that he advocate violent revolution? That used to be your bar for "Marxist," what changed?
                              "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                              -John Locke

                              "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                              -Newman

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