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    Few uninsured young people say they’ll sign up for Obamacare
    BY AARON BLAKE
    December 4 at 10:41 am

    Fewer than one-third of young, uninsured Americans say they are leaning toward enrolling in a health-care plan under the new Obamacare exchanges, according to a new poll -- a number that, if it holds, would present huge problems for the new law.

    In order to keep costs down, the Affordable Care Act relies on younger, healthier people signing up for coverage to offset the costs for older, sicker Americans.

    But a Harvard University Institute of Politics poll shows just 29 percent of uninsured 18-to-29-year olds say they will definitely (13 percent) or likely (16 percent) enroll in the Obamacare exchanges. When the question describes the law as the "Affordable Care Act" rather than Obamacare, just 25 percent say the are leaning toward enrolling or will enroll.

    About the same number say they're unlikely to or definitely won't sign up. Another four in 10 say it's a 50-50 proposition.

    Not enrolling would subject these people to a penalty under the individual mandate, but in the law's first year, the penalty is relatively small.

    The slow pace of enrollments among young people has already been cause for concern. The White House has estimated that it needs 40 percent of enrollees to be under 35 years old, but early numbers in states where data is available suggest that that number is closer to about 25 percent.

    This is despite ad campaigns that have been geared toward signing young people up. The most notorious of these campaigns featured young men who appeared to be college-age participating in a keg stand.

    More broadly, young people's opinions of the health-care law are pretty much on par with their older cohorts.

    At least 56 percent disapprove of the health-care law, regardless of which label is used to describe it. And while half of young people expect their health-care costs to rise under Obamacare, only about one in 10 say the costs will decrease.
    Why the difference between the names, I wonder?

    WaPo
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

  • #2
    Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Why the difference between the names, I wonder?



    Cult members have that Pavlovian response.
    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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    • #3
      The forest for the trees.

      I was thinking about this as I listened to Hugh Hewitt rag on and on about ACA.

      These talk show hosts go on about "socializing 1/6th of the economy".

      There is your forest right there. Regardless of how it's paid for, why is healthcare such a large chunk of our economy?
      The year's at the spring
      And day's at the morn;
      Morning's at seven;
      The hill-side's dew-pearled;
      The lark's on the wing;
      The snail's on the thorn:
      God's in his heaven—
      All's right with the world!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Novaheart View Post
        The forest for the trees.

        I was thinking about this as I listened to Hugh Hewitt rag on and on about ACA.

        These talk show hosts go on about "socializing 1/6th of the economy".

        There is your forest right there. Regardless of how it's paid for, why is healthcare such a large chunk of our economy?
        Same reason medical inflation is higher than general inflation. You can't outsource it all to China.
        Enjoy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
          Same reason medical inflation is higher than general inflation. You can't outsource it all to China.
          Or in-source it through undocumented labor.
          “Thus it is that no cruelty whatsoever passes by without impact. Thus it is that we always pay dearly for chasing after what is cheap.”

          ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Novaheart View Post
            why is healthcare such a large chunk of our economy?
            Largely because people refuse to do what they should be doing to avoid the "need" to be treated by the healthcare system. If the majority of Americans ate clean in moderate portions, didn't smoke, didn't drink to excess, didn't do unneeded drugs, both OTC and diverted RX, and performed some moderate exercise then healthcare costs would go down for everyone.

            Right now low income people on Medicaid, choke the ER's with minor complaints because it cost them $3 total. I see them in clinic for complaints such as, "I'm going on vacation in a week (wonder where that money came from) and I want to make sure I won't get sick"!! I kid you not. Some will then not have the $3 at checkout but have a pack of cigarettes in their pocket.

            It's a system wide drain problem.

            The other part is the greed in the system. Drug companies over charge. Insurance companies refuse payment. And some healthcare providers think they should be wealthy.

            The system is broken but the real problem still remains a lack of personal responsibility for ones own health.
            If it pays, it stays

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Frostbit View Post

              The system is broken but the real problem still remains a lack of personal responsibility for ones own health.
              But some guy just "checking" because it's virtually free is posing a different problem. He may or may not be sick due lifestyle issues but he's accessing the system because he can - not because he needs it.

              This is a problem that is endemic in Britain. Drunks clog up the ERs every weekend. I'm not talking about people with alcohol poisoning or people who injured themselves while drunk (there are many of those) but people who are just barfing drunk or confused. They don't need medical help - they need a dark room for 8 hours.

              A lot of medical time and effort is taken up with people who need a friend or some time out. How many people go to Docs because they want drugs to make them less sad, angry, nervous, or bored? How many go for themselves or a child "just to be sure"? We've medicalized the entire human experience.

              We've lost the capacity to simply judge for ourselves and do for ourselves as a first step.
              "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                But some guy just "checking" because it's virtually free is posing a different problem. He may or may not be sick due lifestyle issues but he's accessing the system because he can - not because he needs it.

                This is a problem that is endemic in Britain. Drunks clog up the ERs every weekend. I'm not talking about people with alcohol poisoning or people who injured themselves while drunk (there are many of those) but people who are just barfing drunk or confused. They don't need medical help - they need a dark room for 8 hours.

                A lot of medical time and effort is taken up with people who need a friend or some time out. How many people go to Docs because they want drugs to make them less sad, angry, nervous, or bored? How many go for themselves or a child "just to be sure"? We've medicalized the entire human experience.

                We've lost the capacity to simply judge for ourselves and do for ourselves as a first step.
                Growing up, probably saw a doctor once a year if that.
                Had to be extraordinary to fork out the money for a doc.
                Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
                and lost …
                But the Republicans are racist.

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