Gun-grabbers expose their astounding ignorance

[Adam]

The latest in gun-grabber propaganda:




This one is making its way around twitter, apparently at the behest of the Moms Demand Action crowd, and has even been plastered out there by some fairly prominent gun-grabber politicians.

I was willing to grant some "artistic license" on a couple of things, such as the fact that the trigger isn't actually pulled. I was also kind of willing to grant that maybe the bullet was supposed to be representative of speed, streaking away from the muzzle, rather than being a whole cartridge, which is what it appears to be at first glance. I zoomed in on the picture and couldn't get a definite answer to satisfy myself, but I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt on that.


Then I saw this:




And that removed all doubt. These people have not the slightest clue what they're talking about. They literally do not know what happens when a gun is fired.

[Frostbit]

They literally do not know what happens when a gun is fired.

A child dies!!

[Norm dePlume]

As it turns out, that second image (with the full cartridge flying out the barrel) was produced by a pro-gun group in order to discredit an anti-gun group.

While the image at first appeared to be created by Everytown for Gun Safety, an anti-gun campaign paid for by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and includes the web address of the group’s official website and logo, the Facebook page it was posted on is not the one the group’s website currently links to.

A spokesperson for the gun control group Demand Action told TheBlaze the Facebook page and image belongs to “cybersquatters,” not Bloomberg’s group.

The Facebook page that uploaded the photo joined the social network on April 17. The group recently said it was working to secure a new Facebook group page after a pro-gun group swooped in and used the group’s name to promote the Second Amendment.

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The groups behind the pro-gun “Everytown” Facebook page — Gun Rights Across America and 1 Million Moms Against Gun Control — have since reportedly taken down the page following an apparent legal threat, the Examiner reports.

[Adam]

As it turns out, that second image (with the full cartridge flying out the barrel) was produced by a pro-gun group in order to discredit an anti-gun group.

Interesting.

A bunch of that stuff has now been deleted, but I'll take this at face value that it was, for lack of a better term, "guerrilla activism" against Everytown, and further, I will condemn that action. Using outright lies like that should not be the hallmark of those opposing the anti-gun movement, and I want nothing to do with them.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I have no doubt that there are hard-core, irrational anti-gun people who will never listen to a differnt viewpoint. However, my experience on this issue since returning to the SF Bay Area has been surprisingly similar to my experience on a very different issue after moving to Florida some years ago.

When I moved to Florida, all m SF friends predicted I would have to pack away my gay t-shirts and rainbow flag. Instead, I found that when people got to sit down and talk about ordinary things that parents on the playground talk about, by the time the discussion came around to family composition, they were pretty accepting, even if I was the first "out" gay person they had known.

When I moved back to Northern CA, my Florida friends said I would need to keep quiet about my views on concealed carry. Well, surprise! Most of my old friends and new just really know very little about guns and when they're better informed, are willing to consider that they might be wrong, or at the least, that a reasonable person might want to carry without endorsing "gun violence." One of my young colleagues has decided to go to the range with HRH and me.

Epithets like "gun-grabbers" and "gun nuts" tend to make that sort of dialogue pretty much impossible.

[Gingersnap]

I've seen a lot of this advertising/activism/whatever. It's like all the fear-mongering stuff: meh.

You will die if you sit down.
You will die if you smoke.
You will die if you own a car.
You will die if you eat meat/carbs.
You will die if your kid doesn't get into an Ivy League college.
You will die if you don't wear a helmet.

Whatever.

Most people who own guns don't commit crimes or use one in a suicide or watch their toddler kill a play date kid.

Some criminals kill people with guns, some determined suicides use a gun, and a really tiny number of small children wound or kill themselves or a friend.

[scott]

I have no doubt that there are hard-core, irrational anti-gun people who will never listen to a differnt viewpoint. However, my experience on this issue since returning to the SF Bay Area has been surprisingly similar to my experience on a very different issue after moving to Florida some years ago.

When I moved to Florida, all m SF friends predicted I would have to pack away my gay t-shirts and rainbow flag. Instead, I found that when people got to sit down and talk about ordinary things that parents on the playground talk about, by the time the discussion came around to family composition, they were pretty accepting, even if I was the first "out" gay person they had known.

When I moved back to Northern CA, my Florida friends said I would need to keep quiet about my views on concealed carry. Well, surprise! Most of my old friends and new just really know very little about guns and when they're better informed, are willing to consider that they might be wrong, or at the least, that a reasonable person might want to carry without endorsing "gun violence." One of my young colleagues has decided to go to the range with HRH and me.

Epithets like "gun-grabbers" and "gun nuts" tend to make that sort of dialogue pretty much impossible.

True.

I'm always amazed at how very little the most vociferous advocates of "firearm safety" actually know about firearms. Ignorance does breed irrational fear.

[Novaheart]

A child dies!!

Teacher says that whenever a bell rings a child dies.

[Novaheart]

I have no doubt that there are hard-core, irrational anti-gun people who will never listen to a differnt viewpoint. However, my experience on this issue since returning to the SF Bay Area has been surprisingly similar to my experience on a very different issue after moving to Florida some years ago.

When I moved to Florida, all m SF friends predicted I would have to pack away my gay t-shirts and rainbow flag. Instead, I found that when people got to sit down and talk about ordinary things that parents on the playground talk about, by the time the discussion came around to family composition, they were pretty accepting, even if I was the first "out" gay person they had known.

When I moved back to Northern CA, my Florida friends said I would need to keep quiet about my views on concealed carry. Well, surprise! Most of my old friends and new just really know very little about guns and when they're better informed, are willing to consider that they might be wrong, or at the least, that a reasonable person might want to carry without endorsing "gun violence." One of my young colleagues has decided to go to the range with HRH and me.

Epithets like "gun-grabbers" and "gun nuts" tend to make that sort of dialogue pretty much impossible.

Nut grabbers!

[Celeste Chalfonte]

Nut grabbers!

Gutter mind.

[Novaheart]

Gutter mind.

Turkey, ain't' you know that a mind is a terrible thing to baste?

[Norm dePlume]

Get thee to a gunnery, go.

[RobJohnson]

I've seen a lot of this advertising/activism/whatever. It's like all the fear-mongering stuff: meh.

You will die if you sit down.
You will die if you smoke.
You will die if you own a car.
You will die if you eat meat/carbs.
You will die if your kid doesn't get into an Ivy League college.
You will die if you don't wear a helmet.

Whatever.

Most people who own guns don't commit crimes or use one in a suicide or watch their toddler kill a play date kid.

Some criminals kill people with guns, some determined suicides use a gun, and a really tiny number of small children wound or kill themselves or a friend.

Life is a terminal illness.