"Hey! You had no right to interrupt his armed robbery in progress!"

[Adam]

Suspect's family angry at Good Samaritan, police

MOBILE, Ala. (WALA) - The family of a suspected thief is lashing out after their son was shot during an armed robbery.

Relatives of Adric White, 18, believe the Good Samaritan who opened fire should have “just left the store.”

FOX10 spoke exclusively with a customer who stepped in to rescue employees held at gunpoint Tuesday, November 12.

The Good Samaritan, who we are not identifying, told FOX10 News he was shopping at the Family Dollar on Stanton road when he noticed a masked gunman leading one of the employees to the front of the store.

“He had the gun to his head. He had him on his knees,” said the man. “I drew my gun on him and I said 'Hey don't move.' At that point he swung around and before he had a chance to aim the gun at me I fired. I didn’t want to shoot him.”

White was transported to USA Medical Center, where he remains in police custody.

A family member who did not want to be identified said White should have never been shot to begin with.

“If his (the customer) life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him - what gives him the right to think that it's okay to just shoot someone?” said the relative. “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.”

FOX10 had interviewed White’s parents but they later called and demanded the video not be aired.

Unfuckingbelievable.

[Bob Loblaw 3.0]

No, sadly it's very believable. Welcome to the modern world where it's everyone for himself.

[Norm dePlume]

It's gotten to the point where grieving family members sometimes say something irrational.

[Bob Loblaw 3.0]

I doubt that this blindsided them. People usually work up to that type of crime.

[gary m]

It's gotten to the point where grieving family members sometimes say something irrational.

True. The grieving family was probably counting on that money to do their Black Friday shopping.

[Lanie]

It's gotten to the point where grieving family members sometimes say something irrational.

Exactly. From their point of view, it sounds like they think nobody in the
store was in danger judging by their comments (of if nobody had a gun
to their head when in fact a gun was at the employee's head).

You can't help who you love, even if it's family that turns into criminals. The best thing to do is to not make excuses for them, but when one gets shot it's probably hard to do. Unless you've been close to somebody who is like that, you don't know what you're talking about when you criticize them. I know that sounds mean, but that's the truth. People are human.

[gary m]

Exactly. From their point of view, it sounds like they think nobody in the
store was in danger judging by their comments (of if nobody had a gun
to their head when in fact a gun was at the employee's head).

You can't help who you love, even if it's family that turns into criminals. The best thing to do is to not make excuses for them, but when one gets shot it's probably hard to do. Unless you've been close to somebody who is like that, you don't know what you're talking about when you criticize them. I know that sounds mean, but that's the truth. People are human.

The prosecution stated that two men, Kastel and Hess, killed 62-year-old Julius Schnoll on Jan. 27, 1979, during a botched robbery at the Great Scott supermarket at 10 Mile and Orchard Lake roads. Police said on the day of the killing, Hess, and Kastel, both from Highland Park, climbed in through the store’s air-conditioning duct early in the morning, herded the four night-shift workers into the break room and hog-tied them with dog leashes and cellophane.

Schnoll, who was a night manager and traveled between two stores, was ordered to open the safe, but Schnoll didn’t know the combination because only the day manager had that information. When the robbers realized Schnoll couldn’t open the safe, he was shot in the head inside of the break room in front of the rest of the employees.

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Why is this relevant, you ask?

My dad worked for Great Scott when this happened and he knew Mr. Schnoll quite well. This store was one of the stores my dad, as a bakery manager for the parent corporation, set up the displays for bread and other baked goods. I also found out sometime later that I knew the shooter and accomplice and testified against William Hess at his murder trial.
When someone puts a gun to someone else's head, the assumption is that they plan on pulling the trigger. There is no reason for anyone in the store at the time to believe that Adric White was not going to shoot the employee or anyone / everyone else in the store.
Just over a month earlier he had been arrested for a robbery somewhere else and unless he is just really unlucky and really stupid, it is not very likely that these were the only 2 times that he had robbed someone at gunpoint.
As far as his whiny assed relatives are concerned, they can go fuck themselves.

[daveman]

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Why is this relevant, you ask?

My dad worked for Great Scott when this happened and he knew Mr. Schnoll quite well. This store was one of the stores my dad, as a bakery manager for the parent corporation, set up the displays for bread and other baked goods. I also found out sometime later that I knew the shooter and accomplice and testified against William Hess at his murder trial.
When someone puts a gun to someone else's head, the assumption is that they plan on pulling the trigger. There is no reason for anyone in the store at the time to believe that Adric White was not going to shoot the employee or anyone / everyone else in the store.
Just over a month earlier he had been arrested for a robbery somewhere else and unless he is just really unlucky and really stupid, it is not very likely that these were the only 2 times that he had robbed someone at gunpoint.
As far as his whiny assed relatives are concerned, they can go fuck themselves.

[Lanie]

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Why is this relevant, you ask?

My dad worked for Great Scott when this happened and he knew Mr. Schnoll quite well. This store was one of the stores my dad, as a bakery manager for the parent corporation, set up the displays for bread and other baked goods. I also found out sometime later that I knew the shooter and accomplice and testified against William Hess at his murder trial.
When someone puts a gun to someone else's head, the assumption is that they plan on pulling the trigger. There is no reason for anyone in the store at the time to believe that Adric White was not going to shoot the employee or anyone / everyone else in the store.
Just over a month earlier he had been arrested for a robbery somewhere else and unless he is just really unlucky and really stupid, it is not very likely that these were the only 2 times that he had robbed someone at gunpoint.
As far as his whiny assed relatives are concerned, they can go fuck themselves.

I'm sorry about the man who died. I'm not saying people shouldn't defend themselves. I'm saying people shouldn't be assholes because the relatives cared that their loved one died. Yes, you did read that correctly. I'm sick of people getting mad at people they don't even know for being human. Unless you've been in their shoes, you have no right to judge.

And BTW, I used to work in a convenience store and I've lived in the bad neighborhoods. I know all about the fear of what could happen. I'd be willing to defend myself or others against a potential shooter and I'd testify against them in court. That doesn't mean I'd be heartless toward those grieving the person.

[Bob Loblaw 3.0]

I'm sorry about the man who died. I'm not saying people shouldn't defend themselves. I'm saying people shouldn't be assholes because the relatives cared that their loved one died. Yes, you did read that correctly. I'm sick of people getting mad at people they don't even know for being human. Unless you've been in their shoes, you have no right to judge.

And BTW, I used to work in a convenience store and I've lived in the bad neighborhoods. I know all about the fear of what could happen. I'd be willing to defend myself or others against a potential shooter and I'd testify against them in court. That doesn't mean I'd be heartless toward those grieving the person.

Are you talking about the perp in the opening post? He didn't die.

And sorry to disagree with you, but his parents will get no sympathy out of me, they're the ones who unleashed him on society. I'll lay odds that Adric has been in trouble and causing trouble for years, and his luck finally ran out. What kind of an animal puts a gun to somebody's head and forces them to knee-walk through a store? One that needs to be caged... or put down before he kills somebody.

[Lanie]

Are you talking about the perp in the opening post? He didn't die.

And sorry to disagree with you, but his parents will get no sympathy out of me, they're the ones who unleashed him on society. I'll lay odds that Adric has been in trouble and causing trouble for years, and his luck finally ran out. What kind of an animal puts a gun to somebody's head and forces them to knee-walk through a store? One that needs to be caged... or put down before he kills somebody.

What right do you have to judge his parents as being bad people? Do you know anything about their child rearing methods? Kids go against their upbringing all the time.

[Bob Loblaw 3.0]

What right do you have to judge his parents as being bad people? Do you know anything about their child rearing methods? Kids go against their upbringing all the time.

They're putting his concerns over the lives of those people that he was holding at gun point. They're bad in this instance, showing no concern for the real victims of the crime.

[gary m]

What right do you have to judge his parents as being bad people? Do you know anything about their child rearing methods? Kids go against their upbringing all the time.

Unless you know something that was not in the story, how do you know the ones making the statements are his parents?
All I saw was "relative" which could be an aunt, sister or cousin as the voice was female.

I am not judging the relative based on the actions of the gun wielding robber, I am judging them on their own words, that they e person who shot poor dear misunderstood Adric should have left the store and gone elsewhere rather than take it upon himself to rescue the real victim, the clerk with Aldic's gun to their head.

Nothing in the story indicates that the grieving relative(s) had one iota of concern for anyone other than Adric. Had they shown this concern earlier in the life of the (at least) 2 time armed robber (at age 18 no less), maybe they would not have to try and see him in a hospital now or with any luck, a prison jumpsuit in the not to distant future.

[gary m]

Apparently outstanding citizen Adric White was also arrested in August for pot possession and receiving stolen property.
That is 3 arrests in under 4 months. Someone should call Rev. Jesse, Al Sharpton and Obama. Obviously the popo are persecuting this pillar of the local Alabama community.

[Lanie]

They're putting his concerns over the lives of those people that he was holding at gun point. They're bad in this instance, showing no concern for the real victims of the crime.

From what I've read in the article, it sounds like they think nobody had a gun to their head. I don't think that's not caring about the victims. I think it's being unsure who the victim was. Stupid assumption, but grieving families get stupid at times.