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    RIVERDALE — A Riverdale man watched helplessly as his wife and four young children perished Saturday night after he tried desperately to rescue them from a fiery two-car crash south of town, the California Highway Patrol said.

    Coroner's investigators haven't confirmed the identities of the five victims. But a clerk at a Riverdale market identified the mother as Esmeralda Tafoya. A makeshift memorial apparently set up Sunday at the crash scene included flowers and a poster with photos of the mother and her children: Breanna, Jada, Nikko and Issac. The white poster read "We will miss you!" and "Gone but never ever forgotten."

    The collision happened just after 7 p.m. Saturday as the 29-year-old mother was southbound on Marks Avenue crossing Excelsior Avenue in a 2003 Ford Expedition SUV.

    The CHP said Juana Martinez Bejarano, 41, of Riverdale was westbound on Excelsior and driving about 60 mph in a 2004 Nissan Quest minivan when she did not stop for the stop sign at Marks.

    The front of the Nissan slammed into the side of the Ford and both cars came to rest on the southwest corner of the intersection. The Ford burst into flames and the driver and four children -- ages 1, 3, 6 and 11 years -- perished at the scene.

    The CHP said the father of the family, who was not identified, was following the Ford and saw the crash and the SUV catch fire. He tried to smash windows and pull his family from the burning Ford, and received minor burns to his hands, said CHP spokesman Axel Reyes.
    I just cannot even imagine the horror that poor man went through, and will continue to go through for the rest of his life.
    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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    Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

    Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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    • #3
      These things should be standard equipment. One of those things you buy hoping you never have to use it (but not as sexy as a handgun).
      Enjoy.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
        These things should be standard equipment. One of those things you buy hoping you never have to use it (but not as sexy as a handgun).
        May or may not have helped in this case. Based upon this:

        Fresno County Coroner Dr. David Hadden said autopsies were performed Sunday but the results won't be available until Monday at the earliest. He did not yet know whether the occupants died of injuries from the impact or from the fire.
        and this:

        Robert Pierce said the car was engulfed in flames up to 15 feet tall.

        "Nobody was moving, nobody was screaming, nobody was crying," he said.
        it sounds to me like the mom and kids probably were not conscious after the collision, and perhaps were already dead before the fire even started. And, it's sounding like the doors were jammed in such a way that just getting the window open may not have been enough: it's not easy to get a car seat out through a window, after all.


        But yes, I agree that there should be something readily at hand to break a window in an emergency situation.
        It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
        In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
        Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
        Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Adam View Post
          May or may not have helped in this case. Based upon this:



          and this:



          it sounds to me like the mom and kids probably were not conscious after the collision, and perhaps were already dead before the fire even started. And, it's sounding like the doors were jammed in such a way that just getting the window open may not have been enough: it's not easy to get a car seat out through a window, after all.


          But yes, I agree that there should be something readily at hand to break a window in an emergency situation.
          Don't most cars have these?

          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
          -John Locke

          "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
          -Newman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by scott View Post
            Don't most cars have these?

            Yes, but most of them have those in the trunk. Not terribly handy if you're trapped inside the burning/sinking car and can't very easily reach the trunk.
            It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
            In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
            Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
            Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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            • #7
              Plus, they really suck at slicing seat belts.
              Enjoy.

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              • #8
                We keep one of these in the console of every car along with a small fire extinguisher.



                the blade will cut through a seat belt with one yank.
                We are so fucked.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gary m View Post
                  We keep one of these in the console of every car along with a small fire extinguisher.



                  the blade will cut through a seat belt with one yank.
                  Oh those. Yeah, my mom had one in her car. I grabbed it to cut a tow belt that got caught in the axle and it fell apart. The spike supposedly for piercing an airbag fell out and the hammer top fell out.
                  "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                  -John Locke

                  "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                  -Newman

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scott View Post
                    Oh those. Yeah, my mom had one in her car. I grabbed it to cut a tow belt that got caught in the axle and it fell apart. The spike supposedly for piercing an airbag fell out and the hammer top fell out.
                    So she got it at Walmart or Ebay eh?
                    If it pays, it stays

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                      So she got it at Walmart or Ebay eh?
                      Ace Hardware
                      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                      -John Locke

                      "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                      -Newman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scott View Post
                        Ace Hardware
                        Didn't read the directions eh?
                        If it pays, it stays

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scott View Post
                          Oh those. Yeah, my mom had one in her car. I grabbed it to cut a tow belt that got caught in the axle and it fell apart. The spike supposedly for piercing an airbag fell out and the hammer top fell out.
                          It had a spike for piercing an airbag?
                          Enjoy.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                            It had a spike for piercing an airbag?
                            Yes.
                            "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                            -John Locke

                            "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                            -Newman

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                            • #15
                              I can't imagine what the poor man is going through. I hope he has other family and friends to help him out.

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