Seriously Swarthmore?

[Novaheart]

http://daily.swarthmore.edu/2014/02/13/students-share-mixed-responses-to-georgewest-collection/

“What really bothered me is, the whole idea is that at a liberal arts college, we need to be hearing a diversity of opinion. I don’t think we should be tolerating [George’s] conservative views because that dominant culture embeds these deep inequalities in our society. We should not be conceding to the dominant culture by saying that the so-called “progressive left” is marginalizing the conservative,” Erin Ching ‘16 said.

On the other hand, some students acknowledged the lack of large-scale protest as progress for the campus.


Mind you (and feel free to disagree) this doesn't mean that I believe that a venue has a duty to host an "opposing viewpoint" for every discussion. Years ago, Oprah announced that she was no longer going to have some jackass on the show to be counterpoint to every discussion of gay issues. Indeed, at some point we stopped having a member of the KKK on to balance civil rights activists on TV as well. Having Scott Lively on a show about equal rights for gay people would be like having an arsonist on a show about historical preservation. If you want to have a functional discussion on marriage equality, then it might be appropriate to have a lawyer or politician on who is concerned about some functional aspect in the law, but his religious views are utterly irrelevant.

[phillygirl]

It's the People's Republic of Swarthmore. I would expect nothing less from them.

[Frostbit]

It's the People's Republic of Swarthmore. I would expect nothing less from them.

Fond memories going to the "Meadow" at Swarthmore in the 70's.

[Novaheart]

Fond memories going to the "Meadow" at Swarthmore in the 70's.

IS that what they called it back then?

[Adam]

"What really bothered me is, the whole idea is that at a liberal arts college, we need to be hearing a diversity of opinion."

I can't believe someone actually said that with a straight face. It's hilarious in its abject stupidity. It's like the old (apparently apocryphal) adage of "I can't believe Nixon got elected; I don't know anyone who voted for him!"

[Novaheart]

"What really bothered me is, the whole idea is that at a liberal arts college, we need to be hearing a diversity of opinion."

I can't believe someone actually said that with a straight face. It's hilarious in its abject stupidity. It's like the old (apparently apocryphal) adage of "I can't believe Nixon got elected; I don't know anyone who voted for him!"

I heard it on Dennis Praeger which is why I looked it up and brought it here. In fairness, this Erin Lin is 16 years old. If nothing else, this is a wonderful demonstration that just because someone can do college level work, doesn't mean they are old enough to go to college. Seriouly, what if she were a prodigy with an academic stage mother and finished medical school by the age of 16? Should a person with her level of maturity be allowed to practice medicine? I think not.

[Adam]

I heard it on Dennis Praeger which is why I looked it up and brought it here. In fairness, this Erin Lin is 16 years old. If nothing else, this is a wonderful demonstration that just because someone can do college level work, doesn't mean they are old enough to go to college. Seriouly, what if she were a prodigy with an academic stage mother and finished medical school by the age of 16? Should a person with her level of maturity be allowed to practice medicine? I think not.

Actually, no. That's "Erin Ching, '16," as in "class of 2016," meaning that Erin is apparently a sophomore, and therefore probably now old enough to drink legally.

[Frostbit]

IS that what they called it back then?

Swarthmore College has a beautiful campus but one area was a large low lying meadow with a creek shaded by large Sycamore trees. It where the "hippie set" gathered. A flood of tie-dye against a green backdrop. Loved it.

[Frostbit]

Should a person with her level of maturity be allowed to practice medicine? I think not.

You just perfectly described the last Hospitalist to "care" (I use the term loosely) for Joyce prior to her discharge after the surgery.

[Novaheart]

Actually, no. That's "Erin Ching, '16," as in "class of 2016," meaning that Erin is apparently a sophomore, and therefore probably now old enough to drink legally.

By George you are correct. Good catch.

[Novaheart]

You just perfectly described the last Hospitalist to "care" (I use the term loosely) for Joyce prior to her discharge after the surgery.

You should have seen the look on my doctor's face when I instructed that the hospitalist was never to be part of my care in the future. Funny how a doctor being inconsiderate and telling one little lie can so thoroughly piss off a customer (I never refer to myself as a patient).

The hospitalist would stop by and then leave orders in my chart which I wasn't informed about. Tell me one thing and tell the nurses another. And was a pain the ass around discharging me. I do not understand why it's harder to get out of the hospital than it was East Berlin.

[Adam]

You just perfectly described the last Hospitalist to "care" (I use the term loosely) for Joyce prior to her discharge after the surgery.

You should have seen the look on my doctor's face when I instructed that the hospitalist was never to be part of my care in the future. Funny how a doctor being inconsiderate and telling one little lie can so thoroughly piss off a customer (I never refer to myself as a patient).

The hospitalist would stop by and then leave orders in my chart which I wasn't informed about. Tell me one thing and tell the nurses another. And was a pain the ass around discharging me. I do not understand why it's harder to get out of the hospital than it was East Berlin.

The word "hospitalist" kind of bothers me.

If I hate some race(s), I'm a racist. So, a hospitalist ... hates hospitals?

[Norm dePlume]

The word "hospitalist" kind of bothers me.

If I hate some race(s), I'm a racist. So, a hospitalist ... hates hospitals?

I took it as a hospitalist has an inflated opinion of the importance of hospitals, just as a racist has an inflated opinion of the importance of race.

[Frostbit]

Hospitalist is a term for a provider who only manages the care of a patient during their hospital stay. This portion of the health care industry grew in the last 15 years and now if you are admitted to most any hospital in the nation the person making the most important decisions in your care while hospitalized will likely not know you from Adam (sorry Adam) as far as medical history is concerned.

The last one "caring" for Joyce would round without reviewing lab results, nurse chart notes, and had the body language of a "Deer in the Headlights". I had access to the medical record in real time via computer and the patient's (my wife) permission to access those records. I watched a slowly developing train wreck thanks to poor medication choices. Once we got her discharged she did great. We fired that Hospitalist on 11/08. I continued to check chart notes. She turned over care to the Surgery group PA as a primary (fine with me as I know her well) and never set foot in the room again.

Just got the itemized hospital bills. The hospitalist charged for both the day we fired her and the day after. She wrote the discharge summary 4 days after discharge.

Ironically, the week after discharge I got a call from the head of the Hospitalist group wanting to know why we fired her. He was being sincere in his effort to access her level of ability.

Now that I got the bills I have another call into him. The bastards better adjust this bill. Also the day she took over care from the previous efficient Hospitalist the day rate went up 65%, obviously to the next coding level. I will now do what I do best. I am going to make someone's life miserable.

[Adam]

I took it as a hospitalist has an inflated opinion of the importance of hospitals, just as a racist has an inflated opinion of the importance of race.

Fair point.