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    Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has introduced a new jail unit specifically for inmates who served in the military, joining eight other jail units under his jurisdiction in Phoenix, Arizona.

    "They fought for our country. The least we can do is help them. When some came back, some had mental problems. We have drug prevention programs, alcoholism," said Arpaio.

    Known to some as ‘America’s Toughest Sheriff," Joe Arpaio has drawn both intense praise and criticism. From male inmates in pink underwear to the world’s first ever-female chain gang, the sheriff makes no apologies for the way he runs his jail.

    He hopes segregating the veterans will help keep them on the right track.

    “I served in the military in the Korean War, so I have a bond with these guys. I want to see them succeed,” said Arpaio.

    The cell blocks in the veterans’ unit are painted red, white and blue. Flags from all branches of the military hang from the ceiling, and military themes adorn the walls.

    [....]

    Maricopa County Jail provides special services to the veteran inmates suffering from PTSD, such as psychological attention and job training.

    "Right now, I'm going through a class for depression, stress, and for anger management," said inmate Miguel Angel Valdominos.

    [....]

    "Everyone says they want to help the veterans, but we're actually doing something about it. We're doing this so these guys don't end up begging on the streets or back in here,” said Arpaio.
    That evil bastard! He hates all brown people, as clearly indicated by the statement of Miguel Angel Valdominos.
    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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    I don't have a problem with this so long as those programs he mentions are also available to others who want to use them.

    I do have to also point out that being a veteran isn't an excuse or even necessarily the reason why they do what they do. Some of these people were a certain way before they joined the military. Some of these people did not do battle and therefore do not suffer from PTSS (at least not for that reason). Some vets do suffer from PTSS and probably want to slap some of the other vets using that as their reason for doing certain stuff. It's not all black and white.

    However, I do think there is a need to help veterans who are suffering from the aftermath of war or who came home just to find there are no jobs out there.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lanie View Post
      I don't have a problem with this so long as those programs he mentions are also available to others who want to use them.
      We make lots of things available or easier for Vets which aren't offered to the general public. I see a distinction there, especially in jail. Veterans have demonstrated that they can be productive people. Vets were eligible to join the military at some point, and (depending on your definition of 'Vet') were able to maintain standards of behavior, honor, and productivity. Presumably the structure of character is still there and the person can be repaired.
      The year's at the spring
      And day's at the morn;
      Morning's at seven;
      The hill-side's dew-pearled;
      The lark's on the wing;
      The snail's on the thorn:
      God's in his heaven—
      All's right with the world!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Novaheart View Post
        We make lots of things available or easier for Vets which aren't offered to the general public. I see a distinction there, especially in jail. Veterans have demonstrated that they can be productive people. Vets were eligible to join the military at some point, and (depending on your definition of 'Vet') were able to maintain standards of behavior, honor, and productivity. Presumably the structure of character is still there and the person can be repaired.
        They certainly have more of a tendency to be rehabilitated than people who never lived anything but a criminal life.
        "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
        -John Locke

        "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
        -Newman

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        • #5
          We've made a deal with Vets that we haven't made with civilians: you prepare to die if we tell you to and you live off chicken feed while you are waiting to die or waiting to bag up your fellow soldiers and we will give you random medical care after discharge, 10 free points on any government job scores, a little pension if you live and work long enough, and preferential seating at the Memorial Day pancake breakfast.

          These are really jobs that most Americans don't want to do.

          Ordinary criminals have access to a lot of programs to address mental health issues, drug/alcohol problems, education, vocational training, and legal advice. Tailoring these programs to address the specific concerns of Vets is no different from tailoring the programs to meet the specific needs of women or blacks or teenagers.
          "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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          • #6
            This is a good idea... And I do hope it works. It would upgrade his legacy to 'mixed', and may be something that can be replicated.

            ~Dallas

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
              We've made a deal with Vets that we haven't made with civilians: you prepare to die if we tell you to and you live off chicken feed while you are waiting to die or waiting to bag up your fellow soldiers and we will give you random medical care after discharge, 10 free points on any government job scores, a little pension if you live and work long enough, and preferential seating at the Memorial Day pancake breakfast.

              These are really jobs that most Americans don't want to do.

              Ordinary criminals have access to a lot of programs to address mental health issues, drug/alcohol problems, education, vocational training, and legal advice. Tailoring these programs to address the specific concerns of Vets is no different from tailoring the programs to meet the specific needs of women or blacks or teenagers.
              I wouldn't want women, blacks, or teenagers to have more access than others (just to be clear).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lanie View Post
                I wouldn't want women, blacks, or teenagers to have more access than others (just to be clear).
                You don't think veterans have earned the right to some preferential treatment?
                Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                Robert Southwell, S.J.

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