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    JENNING, LA. – The Jefferson Davis Parish Police Jury has unanimously passed an ordinance making it illegal for any person to appear in a public place wearing pants below the waist and exposing the skin or undergarments.

    Police Juror Steve Eastman initially asked the panel to consider banning saggy pants at the parish courthouse in January in response to courthouse employees' complaints about having to see people's underwear and body parts.

    Juror Bryon Buller took the suggestion a step further and asked the panel to consider making it illegal for anyone to show their undergarments in public to limit indecent and lewd behavior.

    Jurors approved the ordinance Wednesday.

    The American Press reports those violating the law face a $50 fine for the first offense and a $100 fine for each subsequent violation.
    Ought to be a hanging offense.
    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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    I anticipate immediate demonstration of the law of unintended consequences. Yes, they've now banned this:

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    And I understand why. But they've also banned this:

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    at public beaches and pools, unless there's an exception they haven't mentioned. And that's unfortunate.

    Or this (just for you, Nova):

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    Last edited by Celeste Chalfonte; Thursday, March 27, 2014, 3:08 PM.
    "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
      I anticipate immediate demonstration of the law of unintended consequences. Yes, they've now banned this:

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      And I understand why. But they've also banned this:

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      at public beaches and pools, unless there's an exception they haven't mentioned. And that's unfortunate.

      Or this (just for you, Nova):

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      Says they're banning "saggy" pants. I don't see anything sagging on either one of them.
      It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
      In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
      Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
      Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Adam View Post
        Says they're banning "saggy" pants. I don't see anything sagging on either one of them.
        True, but the actual ordinance is "an ordinance making it illegal for any person to appear in a public place wearing pants below the waist and exposing the skin or undergarments." That covers a lot of territory. Or uncovers it. Or something.
        "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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        • #5
          I don't think anyone views women's swimsuit bottoms as "pants". When I think of pants, I think of a garment with legs. I guess the board short crowd might be impacted but even with those, a lot of design elements are built in to make sure those puppies don't slip down.
          "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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          • #6
            They're about to do something similar in Greensboro. I don't want to see all you've got. Pull 'em up.

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            • #7
              LOL! One of our field techs has pants down around mid thigh. He wears very long shirts so there is no 'crazy pants' situation. He's a nice guy and pretty math-okay.

              He will never, ever get a promotion. Never.

              He's been with us for 4 years, his supervisor has discussed this with him, and he still doesn't get why his career is permanently stalled. He's getting too old to pull off his super-90s bike-messanger persona. It's sad.
              "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                LOL! One of our field techs has pants down around mid thigh. He wears very long shirts so there is no 'crazy pants' situation. He's a nice guy and pretty math-okay.

                He will never, ever get a promotion. Never.

                He's been with us for 4 years, his supervisor has discussed this with him, and he still doesn't get why his career is permanently stalled. He's getting too old to pull off his super-90s bike-messanger persona. It's sad.
                In a similar vein, a friend of mine has LOTS of tattoos, even on his head - his entire skull. He's sick of being a bouncer and didn't do well as an auto mechanic but is struggling to find an actual "career." He asked me about insurance and I told him that it was going to be tough given his appearance. He had the usual complaints about "the man" keeping him down and people being too judgemental. I told him that he was free to do whatever he wanted and people were free to buy insurance from whomever they wanted, and typically old people don't trust people that look like they've done time in prison - and that's how old people view those who have this much ink.

                "But this is who I am!" he demanded.

                I gave him some ideas on sales and told him to pick a demographic that was more open to buy from people they could identify with (bands, tattoo artists, bikers, bars) and then pick a product to sell. He doesn't want to sell. He says that's not who he is. Later that night I overheard him complaining to other friends about being told that he's locked out of insurance because of his tattoos and he's locked out of any corporate jobs because of his tattoos. They were talking about saying we needed anti-discrimination laws because people are being unfair.

                So here is a case of someone choosing a "lifestyle" and the protesting the fact that this lifestyle has ramifications about their actual desired lifestyle. Except now he's using his tattoos as a crutch because he doesn't want to be in sales.

                Just like the dude who won't pull up his pants. He is free to do it, but he doesn't get to choose what people think about his choice.
                "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                -John Locke

                "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                -Newman

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                • #9
                  "Don't judge a book by its cover."

                  Sure. Easy to say, harder to do. As humans, we judge everything, all day, every day. It's a survival instinct.

                  Oh...and I learned early and often that life isn't fair. Some of these whiners should take a class on that.
                  Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                  Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                    "Don't judge a book by its cover."

                    Sure. Easy to say, harder to do. As humans, we judge everything, all day, every day. It's a survival instinct.

                    Oh...and I learned early and often that life isn't fair. Some of these whiners should take a class on that.
                    I laugh every time someone does that "don't judge" thing to me. Hipsters "judge" constantly on consumer choices, hair, location, foods, etc. Feminists judge constantly on sex issues, gender politics, sex roles, etc. Gays judge constantly on discrimination as do Blacks. Muslims constantly judge Western values, Western women, Christianity, etc. Political/social bloggers, writers, and talkers are constantly judging. Every employer judges. Free-spirited, random sex people judge decisively.

                    The idea that non-judging is even possible, let alone desirable, is absurd.
                    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                      "Don't judge a book by its cover."

                      Sure. Easy to say, harder to do. As humans, we judge everything, all day, every day. It's a survival instinct.

                      Oh...and I learned early and often that life isn't fair. Some of these whiners should take a class on that.
                      If you aren't in a band, aren't a tattoo artist, or are not some sort of individually wealthy person, your dozens of tattoos show me that you aren't looking to be productive to my business. You might be a nice person but I don't hire on being nice. We hire based on your means to ethically make you and us money.
                      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                      -John Locke

                      "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                      -Newman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                        I laugh every time someone does that "don't judge" thing to me. Hipsters "judge" constantly on consumer choices, hair, location, foods, etc. Feminists judge constantly on sex issues, gender politics, sex roles, etc. Gays judge constantly on discrimination as do Blacks. Muslims constantly judge Western values, Western women, Christianity, etc. Political/social bloggers, writers, and talkers are constantly judging. Every employer judges. Free-spirited, random sex people judge decisively.

                        The idea that non-judging is even possible, let alone desirable, is absurd.
                        WOW!

                        That's funny because I was just about to point out that this tattoo head never trusted me because I was too "corporate" when I asked him about health insurance. He went to an access center instead. He was very frank, he said that he was wary because he was sure I was "selling something."

                        The irony is that the Navigator put him in a higher cost Cigna plan. He still got a bargain at $45 per month but I would have put him in a plan that cost him $8 per month with a lower MOOP. I was able to show him how he could change his plan (on his own without me getting a commission) and he is still skeptical. He doesn't understand how a "Navigator" could be incompetent. I asked how that is and he thinks that they are "government certified." Of course I'm "government certified" too and I'm also licensed by the state government. When I told him this and explained the distinction his eyes glazed over.

                        My license comes with teeth - I can go to jail, be fined, be barred from doing business in this industry (even fixing computers in an insurance agency) if I screw up really bad. The Navigator role doesn't have any teeth at all - if someone screw up really bad they lose the designation and that's it.
                        Last edited by scott; Tuesday, April 8, 2014, 10:49 PM.
                        "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                        -John Locke

                        "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                        -Newman

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                        • #13
                          Being "too corporate" is judgy. It's all judgy.

                          If you dismiss someone because they live where you wouldn't, have sex when you wouldn't, reproduce when you wouldn't, eat what you won't eat, dress the way you won't dress, like music you hate, or whatever - you are judging them.

                          That's not wrong but be honest about it. Don't wander around claiming to be non-judgmental when you really mean that you don't judge people similar to you (politically, socially, regionally) but you do judge anyone who disagrees with your views.

                          That's hypocritical in current parlance.
                          "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                            "Don't judge a book by its cover."

                            Sure. Easy to say, harder to do. As humans, we judge everything, all day, every day. It's a survival instinct.

                            Oh...and I learned early and often that life isn't fair. Some of these whiners should take a class on that.
                            When we (6 girls) complained about things not being fair, my sweet dad would say, okay..go look up "fair" in the dictionary..it doesn't say "equal".
                            May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
                            Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
                            And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
                            may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                              Being "too corporate" is judgy. It's all judgy.

                              If you dismiss someone because they live where you wouldn't, have sex when you wouldn't, reproduce when you wouldn't, eat what you won't eat, dress the way you won't dress, like music you hate, or whatever - you are judging them.

                              That's not wrong but be honest about it. Don't wander around claiming to be non-judgmental when you really mean that you don't judge people similar to you (politically, socially, regionally) but you do judge anyone who disagrees with your views.

                              That's hypocritical in current parlance.
                              I still remember the goth kids showing their non-conformist attitudes by dressing the same and bullying the cheerleaders. This is just a new version of that.
                              "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                              -John Locke

                              "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                              -Newman

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