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    Skirts Should Be a Normal Choice…for Both Women and Men
    Schoolboys in France stirred up gender norms when they eschewed pants last week. But men in skirts shouldn’t be a provocative sight…it should be a choice as normal as women in pants.

    Last Friday, male students and teachers in Nantes, France launched a campaign to fight the sexism that is plaguing societies across the world through their clothing. The “Ce que soulève la jupe” (or “Lift the Skirt”) movement encouraged boys across 27 of the northwest city’s schools to sport skirts to class instead of trousers.

    “We noticed that in a lot of high schools in our region, there are lots of cases of sexism and discrimination, so we thought we should do something to change that, and so we came up with the idea,” the campaign’s organizer, Arthur Moinet, told EuroNews.

    Conservative citizens, however, called the skirt-wearing boys “scandalous.” Olivier Vial, president of the conservative UNI party, spoke out, saying, “We’ll do any old nonsense in the name of equality…This move is inspired by the Day of the Skirt, whose original aim was to allow women to express their femininity in environments where it was often difficult. But this is just denying feminine and masculine identity.”

    While Moinet—and the boys who participated—should be applauded for their efforts to show solidarity and raise awareness for the discrimination faced by women, the response uncovered another form of social discrimination—the intolerance of men wearing skirts—and short shorts, for that matter. Over a century ago, women pushed gender boundaries by wearing their male peers’ pants (gasp!). But today, no one bats an eye as we freely strut around in androgynous clothing—something that is now a staple of the female wardrobe. So why is it so unusual—and readily criticized--for the reverse to occur; for men to embrace womenswear?

    Opting to wear skirts has been a punch line in jokes about masculinity seemingly forever, from boys dressing up as girls for Halloween to fraternities hazing their pledges into cross-dressing for class. It’s the preconceived notion that skirts are reserved for those who are “Samoan, Scottish, or in drag,” as Alisa Gould-Simon highlighted in The Daily Beast in March 2009. In a largely progressive day and age, it’s hard to understand why certain articles of clothing are only deemed acceptable for certain genders.

    In July 2013, 17 schoolboys in Cardiff, Wales showed up to school in skirts after temperatures in the U.K. became obscenely high. Shorts were not an option—they were banned from the dress code. “Over the last few days I’ve had a few headaches and skin irritations because I’ve been too hot,” one of the boys, Tyrone Evelyn, told The Daily Mail. “Girls can wear skirts, so I don’t see why we can’t wear shorts.”

    “Maybe in the next century, Kanye will be proven right and men in leather skirts will be the next big thing, and not just something that leads to a discussion on gender.”

    While Evelyn and his friends simply wanted to wear shorts in warmer temperatures, the school’s headmistress disagreed with their protest, inflicting punishment and forcing them to change back into their long trousers. The boys’ act of defiance may have started on the basis of comfort, but it highlights the intolerance toward men adopting feminine articles of clothing. Skirts are only one example. The same can be said for men wearing short shorts.

    On May 9, The Wall Street Journal’s David Colman wrote a piece, “A New Length for Men’s Shorts,” in which he promoted the recent trend in menswear designers producing pieces with less fabric. While Colman was writing a serious piece on the rise of hemlines and their availability at the likes of Club Monaco and J. Crew, his mantra that “summer is too short to spend it in long pants,” raised the question: Why is he having to convince us to accept the fact that men can also rock shorter inseams? In fact, why are we even discussing the trend as a phenomenon at all?

    “Short shorts on men also confer social benefits to everyone,” Slate’s Amanda Hess wrote in response to Colman’s piece. “In a world where women’s bodies are often dismissed as ‘dangerous’ and ‘wrong’ when exposed, girls are made to pass fingertip hemline tests to gain access to middle-school classrooms, and authority figures claim that these rules and regulations are put in place to protect girls from boys, pulling the short-short onto the other leg implicitly dismantles these sexist structures.”

    Short shorts—and skirts—for men have become more prevalent on the international fashion runways, and can increasingly be found in stores like Barney’s New York. We are even getting used to seeing them on celebrities. Kanye West has pranced around on stage in an array of women’s clothes, trying to make leather skirts for men the next big thing. Sure, the Internet may have exploded, but West’s female-associated attire only led us to realize that some of the most famous (and manly) men in history—Kurt Cobain, Mick Jagger, and Samuel L. Jackson—have all rocked the bottom in their heyday.

    But it is still difficult for society to accept these gender-bending articles of clothing on the everyday streets when worn by non-celebrities. Maybe the boys in France and Wales will pave the way for this change. Maybe in the next century, Kanye will be proven right and men in leather skirts will be the next big thing, and not just something that leads to a discussion on gender. Do clothes need to be gender-specific? Will the time ever come when fashion is simply fashion?
    The author fails to understand that all fashion is coded; if there's no code, it's not "fashion" which is why people don't spend a lot of time fussing over hospital gowns and hazmat suits.

    This could have been a great article on men's utility kilts. Utility kilts make a lot of sense in some environments.

    The problem with getting men to accept "skirts" is that the fashion world can't picture a woman in a skirt unless she is also being sexually evaluated. There are no runway shows featuring skirts that are just skirts. They are always now sexualized. Since ordinary men resist being being sexually evaluated in terms of utility clothing, this is a hard sell.

    I don't know that straight men would accept the flimsy fabrics used in women's skirts. I love skirts and wear them a lot but not to do anything messy or athletic. Mine are also long enough to prevent being flipped up - something the title of the protest coyly alludes to because a woman's skirt can never just be a skirt.

    I still like a guy in a utility kilt, though.

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    Then Michael Moore needs to wear a bra.
    Science that cannot be questioned is propaganda.

    Cameras in classrooms now.

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    • #3
      When I see a woman in a skirt, I think:

      - Don't her legs rub together?
      - Isn't that kind of breezy?
      - God I hate wearing pantyhose.
      - That skirt would look a lot better if she were wearing pantyhose.
      - Whatever happened to those gorgeous Oleg Casini seamed stockings?
      - God her shoes are ugly. (alternately - What the fuck is up with these godawful boots these women insist on wearing that make them all look like bad Texas hookers?)

      When I see a guy in a kilt (real or fashion) I think - Ren faire alert!
      The year's at the spring
      And day's at the morn;
      Morning's at seven;
      The hill-side's dew-pearled;
      The lark's on the wing;
      The snail's on the thorn:
      God's in his heaven—
      All's right with the world!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Novaheart View Post
        When I see a woman in a skirt, I think:

        - Don't her legs rub together?
        - Isn't that kind of breezy?
        - God I hate wearing pantyhose.
        - That skirt would look a lot better if she were wearing pantyhose.
        - Whatever happened to those gorgeous Oleg Casini seamed stockings?
        - God her shoes are ugly. (alternately - What the fuck is up with these godawful boots these women insist on wearing that make them all look like bad Texas hookers?)

        When I see a guy in a kilt (real or fashion) I think - Ren faire alert!
        In warm weather, a longish skirt with nothing under it is (thermally) cooler than pants. Business-length skirts (much less what current passes for "business length!") look like shit unless the wearer is also wearing pantyhose, which are an invention of the devil, in spite of being way better than a girdle and hose or a garterbelt and hose. A long skirt allows you to pee behind a bush without exposing yourself if you're far from a restroom or the public restroom at the beach is so disgusting you can't stand to walk in the door.

        Most shoes that look good with shorter skirts hurt. Nice boots (not Doc Martins) look fine with below-the-knee or longer skirts. Doc Martins with short skirts only look cute on people under 25, and not all of them.

        Utilikilts and black t-shirts look hot on guys, and don't look RenFaire at all. I can imagine an elite drill team of guys dressed like that.
        "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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        • #5
          You might want to avoid this thread, JB.
          Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

          Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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          • #6
            Well, no our legs don't rub together or mine don't anyway.

            I don't understand the hosiery hatred and I grew up hearing about it. Grocery store pantyhose were pretty awful but the department store kind are fine - stockings are better. I wear tights or stockings in the winter but not in the summer unless it's cocktail type dresses or business attire. Business skirts look just terrible with bare legs and I don't care what your legs look like. You can easily buy seamed stockings.

            I can't contribute to the shoe thing. I have to wear shoes that actually work with my feet. I will wear western boots with denim skirts or broomstick skirts.

            Don't diss the Ren Faire garb - some of those kilts are fetching.
            "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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            • #7



              I think I'll pass on the whole skirt thing.
              It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
              In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
              Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
              Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Adam View Post



                I think I'll pass on the whole skirt thing.
                I'm imagining a guy complaining that the girdle didn't work and that the skirt makes him look fat. lol.

                I was thinking if more guys wore skirts, then maybe they could make them more comfortable and women would start wearing them that way.

                I'm wearing more skirts lately and I don't wear hose. They're usually long skirts anyway.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lanie View Post
                  I'm imagining a guy complaining that the girdle didn't work and that the skirt makes him look fat. lol.

                  I was thinking if more guys wore skirts, then maybe they could make them more comfortable and women would start wearing them that way.

                  I'm wearing more skirts lately and I don't wear hose. They're usually long skirts anyway.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RobJohnson View Post
                    OK.

                    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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