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    "It's not that the initiative would bring marijuana to Alaska," said Bill Parker, a former Department of Corrections deputy commissioner and one of the initiative's sponsors. "Marijuana is already in Alaska. It would legalize, regulate and tax it. It would treat it like alcohol."
    If it pays, it stays

  • #2
    Good point.

    Also, I've heard some dealers stick extra stuff in marajuana to get people to try other stuff. You wouldn't have to worry about that if it was legal and regulated.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lanie View Post
      Good point.

      Also, I've heard some dealers stick extra stuff in marajuana to get people to try other stuff.
      Angel dust at least used to be common for that. Not sure if it still is.

      Originally posted by Lanie View Post
      You wouldn't have to worry about that if it was legal and regulated.
      Oh yes you would.
      It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
      In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
      Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
      Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Adam View Post
        Oh yes you would.
        Why do you believe that? Are they putting unknown drugs into cigarettes or alcohol?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lanie View Post
          Why do you believe that? Are they putting unknown drugs into cigarettes or alcohol?
          Sure. Happens all the time. People get the wrong bootleg 'shine and someone has "fortified" it with anything from rubbing alcohol to formaldehyde. The guys who sell black market smokes routinely cut the tobacco with pretty much anything they can get their hands on, from grass clippings to used fiberglass insulation.
          It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
          In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
          Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
          Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lanie View Post
            Good point.

            Also, I've heard some dealers stick extra stuff in marajuana to get people to try other stuff. You wouldn't have to worry about that if it was legal and regulated.
            You don't have to worry about that now. You know how you have to pay extra to get chili seasoning on fries? Same thing with weed. You pay more for pcp or whatever you have added to it. All those people who didn't have any idea that their weed was laced with whatever are people who smoked whatever anybody handed to them or people who ripped off their roommates' stash.

            Dealers don't need to trick people into trying new drugs; people are more than happy to just ask for it.

            Now, legalization will cut down on the amount of oregano parents will smoke when they find Jason/Jennifer's stash since they can throw the schoolyard stuff away and just buy the unadulterated version
            "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Adam View Post
              Sure. Happens all the time. People get the wrong bootleg 'shine and someone has "fortified" it with anything from rubbing alcohol to formaldehyde. The guys who sell black market smokes routinely cut the tobacco with pretty much anything they can get their hands on, from grass clippings to used fiberglass insulation.
              I think Lanie is talking about regulated store bought legal pot Adam. I would hope that would not be tainted.
              If it pays, it stays

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                I think Lanie is talking about regulated store bought legal pot Adam. I would hope that would not be tainted.
                That didn't work so well with regulating tobacco.
                "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                -John Locke

                "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                -Newman

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by scott View Post
                  That didn't work so well with regulating tobacco.
                  Thing is tobacco is just pure poison. You don't need to taint it. I don't think it has any redeeming qualities.

                  Disclaimer: I am not for making tobacco illegal.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lanie View Post
                    Thing is tobacco is just pure poison. You don't need to taint it. I don't think it has any redeeming qualities.

                    Disclaimer: I am not for making tobacco illegal.
                    You'd sing a different tune if you had been stung out in the country.
                    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Adam View Post
                      You'd sing a different tune if you had been stung out in the country.
                      Well, I've been admitted to the hospital for "asthma" that was severely irritated by second hand smoke. My breathing has always been better when I'm not around it.

                      My mom has COPD and lives on oxygen. Just about anything sets it off and makes her have to go to the doctor and/or emergency room. She smoked for a very long time before she stopped.

                      My dad supposedly had COPD but yet didn't smoke. He was around second hand smoke a lot.

                      My grandma died of lung cancer. The lung cancer was discovered sometime after her stroke. Both can probably be traced back to her earlier smoking.

                      I won't be singing a different tune anytime in the future. I want to clarify that I don't look down on smokers. We all have our own bad habits. I just really really hate what it does.

                      BTW, I come from a small town. It's often confused with the country. If you come by sometime, I'll show you the prettier side of NC (which I'm sure you've seen).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lanie View Post
                        Well, I've been admitted to the hospital for "asthma" that was severely irritated by second hand smoke. My breathing has always been better when I'm not around it.

                        My mom has COPD and lives on oxygen. Just about anything sets it off and makes her have to go to the doctor and/or emergency room. She smoked for a very long time before she stopped.

                        My dad supposedly had COPD but yet didn't smoke. He was around second hand smoke a lot.

                        My grandma died of lung cancer. The lung cancer was discovered sometime after her stroke. Both can probably be traced back to her earlier smoking.

                        I won't be singing a different tune anytime in the future. I want to clarify that I don't look down on smokers. We all have our own bad habits. I just really really hate what it does.

                        BTW, I come from a small town. It's often confused with the country. If you come by sometime, I'll show you the prettier side of NC (which I'm sure you've seen).
                        None of that has to do with a bee sting out in the country.

                        The point is that you said tobacco has "no" redeeming quality. It does: it works wonders on bee stings (or wasps, hornets, etc.) to alleviate pain pretty much immediately.

                        Pretty much every inanimate object, chemical, compound, whatever has some redeeming quality.
                        It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                        In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                        Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                        Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Adam View Post
                          None of that has to do with a bee sting out in the country.

                          The point is that you said tobacco has "no" redeeming quality. It does: it works wonders on bee stings (or wasps, hornets, etc.) to alleviate pain pretty much immediately.

                          Pretty much every inanimate object, chemical, compound, whatever has some redeeming quality.

                          I didn't know that.

                          I knew that marijuana helped Glaucoma and AIDS patients.

                          I knew vodka was good for bronchitis.

                          I didn't know that about tobacco. Chewing tobacco, right?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lanie View Post
                            I didn't know that.

                            I knew that marijuana helped Glaucoma and AIDS patients.

                            I knew vodka was good for bronchitis.

                            I didn't know that about tobacco. Chewing tobacco, right?
                            He means chewed up or chopped tobacco as a poultice - not as an internal medicine. Tobacco is actually in the materia medica of Western medicine for a number of conditions. As Adams says, tobacco is excellent for venomous stings from bugs or plants. It's a relaxant, it's a mild stimulant, it's an antiseptic, it depresses appetite, it can be a purgative, and it can relieve minor congestion (oddly enough).

                            All Native American peoples who had access to tobacco used it both ritually and medicinally. Tobacco was known and used in traditional Chinese medicine as soon as it was available.

                            Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

                            "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                              He means chewed up or chopped tobacco as a poultice - not as an internal medicine. Tobacco is actually in the materia medica of Western medicine for a number of conditions. As Adams says, tobacco is excellent for venomous stings from bugs or plants. It's a relaxant, it's a mild stimulant, it's an antiseptic, it depresses appetite, it can be a purgative, and it can relieve minor congestion (oddly enough).

                              All Native American peoples who had access to tobacco used it both ritually and medicinally. Tobacco was known and used in traditional Chinese medicine as soon as it was available.

                              Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

                              Okay, I do want to point out that tobacco is a hybrid. God didn't make it. We did. I guess the same could be said for vodka.

                              When my sister first started smoking she said it relieved her asthma. I was like "What?" lol.

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