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    Police have made arrests following the brutal attack on an SUV driver on the Henry Hudson Parkway in New York City this weekend.

    A Range Rover driver has clipped one of the bikers, prompting them to swarm the vehicle, slash the tires and beat him up severely.

    His wife and two-year-old daughter were in the car with him at the time. The biker attack on the SUV has been caught on video.
    ...

    Meanwhile, one rider has been paralyzed from the neck down. Edwin Mieses has incurred injuries to his spine and he is currently in a medically induced coma. His legs have been crushed and he has suffered internal injuries.

    “There’s no hope for his back. [...] They crushed his spine — broke it in two different places — so he will be forever, forever paralyzed,” his wife, Dayana Mejia-Meises, tells reporters.

    He adds that his heart, lungs and ribs all incurred wounds. The couple have two kids, a 15-year-old and a 9-year-old.

    “That man paralyzed my husband. [...] He needs to pay for what he did,” Mejia-Meises accuses.
    Need to watch the full video on this.

    Probably good for the gang of thugs that NYC has such restrictive gun laws. In other parts of the country, there would be a 2 mile stretch of multi-color suited morons wallowing in their own blood.

    No sympathies for anyone but the SUV driver here.
    We are so fucked.

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    Family involved in SUV-biker clash was in 'fear for our lives'

    The wife of Alex Lien, the man who was attacked by bikers in Manhattan earlier this week, has issued a statement saying the family sympathizes with the injured biker who was run over by Lien, but said her husband was "forced" into taking the actions he did to "protect his family."

    By Erin McClam and Tracy Connor, NBC News

    The wife of an SUV driver who was beaten after a clash with a swarm of bikers on a New York City highway said Thursday that she and her husband were out celebrating their anniversary when they were “placed in grave danger by a mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists.”

    In a statement released through a law firm on behalf of the family, Rosalyn Ng, the wife of driver Alexian Lien said that her husband “was forced under the circumstances to take the actions that he did in order to protect the lives of our entire family.”

    “We know in our hearts that we could not have done anything differently,” Ng said.
    The family's first comments about Sunday's violence came as a state legislator called for new laws that would ban daredevil motorcyclists from taking to the roads en masse.

    Their statement expressed sympathy for rider Edwin "Jay" Mieses — who was run over and possibly paralyzed when Lien sped from the scene in a panic — but said there was no other choice because they were "faced with a life-threatening situation."

    "Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our two-year-old child," the statement said.

    "We believe that anyone faced with this sort of grave danger would have taken the same course of action in order to protect their family."

    The highway clash, on Sunday, was recorded and has been viewed about 6 million times on YouTube.

    Edwin "Jay" Mieses's family has hired high--profile lawyer Gloria Allred.

    Video shows the bikers racing around Lien's Range Rover. One of them slowed down right in front of him and had his back tire clipped, police said.

    Ng called 911 four times amid the dramatic standoff, first at 1:52 p.m., police sources told NBC News. "She told the operator: “We’re surrounded by a group of bikers.”

    The riders then began attacking Lien's vehicle and chased him for 50 blocks before cornering him, smashing his windows, yanking him out and beating him in front of his wife and child, police said.

    Mieses, 32, was struck when Lien raced away from the pack after the initial fender bender. He is in critical condition with a crushed spine and two broken legs and may be paralyzed. He has hired a media-savvy lawyer, Gloria Allred.

    “There’s no hope for his back,” Mieses’ wife, Dayana, told reporters earlier this week. “They broke it in two different places, so he will be forever, forever paralyzed.”

    Mieses' family has not said whether they are taking legal action against Lien.

    Mieses was recently arrested in Andover, Mass., for driving with a revoked license, according to NBCNewYork.com. He has not had a valid license or permit to drive in the state since 1999, according to police and records with the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles. What’s more, Mieses has never applied for a motorcycle license.

    In June, Mieses was named a habitual offender, and his right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, according to the records. It was not clear if he was licensed to drive in any other state. His attorney had no comment, according to NBCNewYork.com.


    The NYPD has not charged Lien, and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has suggested that if he feared for his life, he may have been within his legal rights to speed away from the scene, hitting other bikers surrounding his SUV in the process.

    The biker who slowed down in front of Lien, Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, N.J., was charged with reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment. His lawyer told reporters he had committed no crime.

    Another biker was arrested by police after he was seen hitting the Range Rover with his hands, but prosecutors declined to bring charges and sources said he did not take part in the assault.
    This appears to be another one of those tiffs between the Amish and the Baptists.

    NBC
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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    • #3
      I've gone on so much previously elsewhere about these biker thug types that I'm almost out of energy to say anything else.

      Almost.

      A popular bumper sticker in these parts says "Start Seeing Motorcycles" and encourages one to be on the lookout for our two-wheeled brethren. It's a noble idea, but it's hard to want to protect them when they're the ones doing so many dangerous maneuvers on public roads.

      To be sure, I am not referring to Harley riders, cruisers or even scooter riders. They all seem to be hip to their place on the road and hyper-vigilant against bad vehicle drivers trying to kill them. And really, most sport bike/crotch rocket people are the same way. But when they get into this mob mentality in large groups, they seem to be the ones to misbehave quickly.

      I've heard some arguments FOR the bikers, saying they really did nothing wrong, but with the video evidence at hand we know that's pretty far divorced from reality. My biggest regret is not that some third party on the scene got paralyzed for being a bystander (a bystander working in concert to block the SUV driver's progress) but that the SUV driver didn't better weird his two-tonne weapon to fend off his attackers. When they began busting on the windows and denting the doors and slashing the tires the first go-round, all bets were off for me. That's when protecting the wife and child come first and the safety and life of the pursuing bikers becomes secondary.
      “Any sufficiently advanced capitalism is indistinguishable from rent seeking.” ~ =j

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tom Servo View Post
        I've gone on so much previously elsewhere about these biker thug types that I'm almost out of energy to say anything else.

        Almost.

        A popular bumper sticker in these parts says "Start Seeing Motorcycles" and encourages one to be on the lookout for our two-wheeled brethren. It's a noble idea, but it's hard to want to protect them when they're the ones doing so many dangerous maneuvers on public roads.

        To be sure, I am not referring to Harley riders, cruisers or even scooter riders. They all seem to be hip to their place on the road and hyper-vigilant against bad vehicle drivers trying to kill them. And really, most sport bike/crotch rocket people are the same way. But when they get into this mob mentality in large groups, they seem to be the ones to misbehave quickly.

        I've heard some arguments FOR the bikers, saying they really did nothing wrong, but with the video evidence at hand we know that's pretty far divorced from reality. My biggest regret is not that some third party on the scene got paralyzed for being a bystander (a bystander working in concert to block the SUV driver's progress) but that the SUV driver didn't better weird his two-tonne weapon to fend off his attackers. When they began busting on the windows and denting the doors and slashing the tires the first go-round, all bets were off for me. That's when protecting the wife and child come first and the safety and life of the pursuing bikers becomes secondary.
        need a 'check mark' smiley for this
        if it's there, I ain't searching for it

        Most 'bikers' are docile and just looking for a different experience than the SUV with 2 infant seats in back.
        In my yoot, I had some time on a Honda Dream and a Scrambler.
        If I or my driver endangered anyone, it was me, if I was driving, or him if I was the passenger.
        Never with other vehicles involved.
        We just did stupid shit because we were 16-18 and invulnerable.
        Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
        and lost …
        But the Republicans are racist.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gramps View Post
          need a 'check mark' smiley for this
          Done.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gramps View Post
            I had some time on a Honda Dream.
            First bike I ever rode. 160cc if I recall correctly. Big full fenders. Be pretty cool to have one now. (to look at not to ride)
            If it pays, it stays

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
              First bike I ever rode. 160cc if I recall correctly. Big full fenders. Be pretty cool to have one now. (to look at not to ride)
              I'm still considering buying a Harley sportster this winter and doing a two week road trip in the spring or early summer.

              They get cheap as shit on craigs list about Jan.

              I just can't justify having the Blazer, the Miata and adding a Harley.

              Other than bucket list maybe.
              Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
              and lost …
              But the Republicans are racist.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gramps View Post
                I'm still considering buying a Harley sportster this winter and doing a two week road trip in the spring or early summer.

                They get cheap as shit on craigs list about Jan.

                I just can't justify having the Blazer, the Miata and adding a Harley.

                Other than bucket list maybe.
                Forget the Harley, ditch the tylenol gelcap and get a real sports car.

                If I was going bucket list last ditch crazy nuts I'd get an Ariel Atom

                If it pays, it stays

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                  Forget the Harley, ditch the tylenol gelcap and get a real sports car.

                  If I was going bucket list last ditch crazy nuts I'd get an Ariel Atom

                  I have owned 3 '2 seaters' and all are related to memories of Jan.
                  I cannot ditch the Miata.
                  I bought it for her 2 days after she was cleared of breast cancer.

                  It sits in the garage.
                  I rarely drive it.

                  My first was an AH Sprite. I was 21 and newly married. I would pick Jan up from work with food from a special local fast food place in Joplin, we would drive out to the falls and eat lunch.
                  In the depths of summer, we would get into the Sprite, on Sat nights, and because we had no AC at the rental, drive to a secluded spot on Center Creek, down in the creek bottom where it was cooler and drink Pabst and listen to the Cardinals on the radio.

                  My second was a Triumph gt6+
                  We were in Tulsa with my in laws, had watched the Kentucky Derby at my FIL's gay sisters house (this was 1970) headed back to Mo, driving down 13th street in Tulsa Ok, and I saw the car...
                  Told my FIL to go back, ...
                  Long story short, I bought the car on the spot.

                  I gave it up 2 months prior to the birth of my only child.
                  Last edited by Gramps; Tuesday, October 22, 2013, 5:33 PM.
                  Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
                  and lost …
                  But the Republicans are racist.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                    Forget the Harley, ditch the tylenol gelcap and get a real sports car.

                    If I was going bucket list last ditch crazy nuts I'd get an Ariel Atom

                    Gelcap!

                    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."

                    -John Locke

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gramps View Post
                      I have owned 3 '2 seaters' and all are related to memories of Jan.
                      I cannot ditch the Miata.
                      I bought it for her 2 days after she was cleared of breast cancer.

                      It sits in the garage.
                      I rarely drive it.

                      My first was an AH Sprite. I was 21 and newly married. I would pick Jan up from work with food from a special local fast food place in Joplin, we would drive out to the falls and eat lunch.
                      In the depths of summer, we would get into the Sprite, on Sat nights, and because we had no AC at the rental, drive to a secluded spot on Center Creek, down in the creek bottom where it was cooler and drink Pabst and listen to the Cardinals on the radio.

                      My second was a Triumph gt6+
                      We were in Tulsa with my in laws, had watched the Kentucky Derby at my FIL's gay sisters house (this was 1970) headed back to Mo, driving down 13th street in Tulsa Ok, and I saw the car...
                      Told my FIL to go back, ...
                      Long story short, I bought the car on the spot.

                      I gave it up 2 months prior to the birth of my only child.
                      That is such a great story bud!
                      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."

                      -John Locke

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tom Servo View Post
                        I've gone on so much previously elsewhere about these biker thug types that I'm almost out of energy to say anything else.

                        Almost.

                        A popular bumper sticker in these parts says "Start Seeing Motorcycles" and encourages one to be on the lookout for our two-wheeled brethren. It's a noble idea, but it's hard to want to protect them when they're the ones doing so many dangerous maneuvers on public roads.

                        To be sure, I am not referring to Harley riders, cruisers or even scooter riders. They all seem to be hip to their place on the road and hyper-vigilant against bad vehicle drivers trying to kill them. And really, most sport bike/crotch rocket people are the same way. But when they get into this mob mentality in large groups, they seem to be the ones to misbehave quickly.

                        I've heard some arguments FOR the bikers, saying they really did nothing wrong, but with the video evidence at hand we know that's pretty far divorced from reality. My biggest regret is not that some third party on the scene got paralyzed for being a bystander (a bystander working in concert to block the SUV driver's progress) but that the SUV driver didn't better weird his two-tonne weapon to fend off his attackers. When they began busting on the windows and denting the doors and slashing the tires the first go-round, all bets were off for me. That's when protecting the wife and child come first and the safety and life of the pursuing bikers becomes secondary.
                        There are no arguments for the bikers. None.

                        I still ride although our dirt bikes and street bikes were sold off a few years ago (the BIL has 5 bikes, 3 of which are rideable by me). Groups have rules - or they don't. If a group of motorcycle/scooter people have no rules, then they are a random pack of potential criminals. There's no reason the car and a bike should have collided in a situation like that but if the driver was following too closely and bumped the bike, the normal thing is for everybody to pull over, exchange information, etc.

                        The normal thing is not for 20 bike people to start a beatdown on the car. What would anybody do in a situation like that? They'd try to run out of it. Who would stay put and hope that the police arrived before the bike gang busted out the windows and killed everybody? Mobs never make good decisions.
                        "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                        • #13
                          Ariel Atom *swoon*

                          Sent from my Droid DNA using Tapatalk 4
                          “Any sufficiently advanced capitalism is indistinguishable from rent seeking.” ~ =j

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tom Servo View Post
                            Ariel Atom *swoon*

                            Sent from my Droid DNA using Tapatalk 4
                            Pretty cool rig for the money. Saw a Jay Leno episode on "My Classic Car" and they took Jay's out for a ride. Sounded like a Formula car winding up to 10,000 RPM. As Jay said, most modern cars can do 100 and it feels like 60, the Atom can do 60 and it feels like 100". Open cockpit statement.
                            Last edited by Frostbit; Thursday, October 24, 2013, 11:43 AM.
                            If it pays, it stays

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by scott View Post
                              That is such a great story bud!
                              To add... and a correction.. it was '71 not '70

                              The Triumph had 325 miles on it..
                              I asked the salesman, why....

                              Some young girl bought it and couldn't get insurance because it was a 'performance car' and she was young (18 I think) and had several tickets, so she returned it (buyers remorse law).

                              So, I strike a deal, sign the papers, ask the salesman, how do I break this baby in...
                              He says, you gonna cruise and look cool or drive fast...
                              Uhh... If I wanted something just to look cool, I would have looked at a Jag...

                              Ok... you headed back to Mo, right? On the Will Rodgers, right? yeah...
                              Then take it up as fast as you can stand... your choice...
                              If it gets hot, back down and let it cool off and hit this bitch again...

                              After I hit the turnpike gate, I was never below 120....

                              some place, I have some pics of Jan in hotpants standing beside it...
                              (if you don't know what hotpants are, google it..)
                              We were young... invincible....
                              Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
                              and lost …
                              But the Republicans are racist.

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