Dem. Lawmaker Backs Off Comments about Clarence Thomas’ Interracial Marriage

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Dem. Lawmaker Backs Off Comments about Clarence Thomas’ Interracial Marriage, Still Calls Him ‘Uncle Tom’
By Andrew Johnson
February 12, 2014 3:01 PM


Alabama state representative Alvin Holmes is no fan of Clarence Thomas. On Tuesday, the same day Thomas told an audience he is treated worse by “northern liberal elites” than he was growing up in the segregated South, Holmes took to the statehouse floor to make disparaging comments about the Supreme Court justice’s marriage to a white woman.

Shameful comments by Holmes at the link.

NRO

[Novaheart]

Shameful comments by Holmes at the link.

NRO

No one seems shy about making it clear that they disapprove of a trophy wife when she is the same race as her husband. Many Americans have their own thoughts when they see a (caucasian) American male married to a war bride, mail order bride, younger or significantly youthful Oriental bride. Both whites and blacks have considered successful black men married to white women (especially blond white women) as having a dynamic in their relationship which is not flattering to black people.

Basically, society looks at a successful black male married to a white female as having chosen the woman who goes with the house and the car.

[Adam]

No one seems shy about making it clear that they disapprove of a trophy wife when she is the same race as her husband. Many Americans have their own thoughts when they see a (caucasian) American male married to a war bride, mail order bride, younger or significantly youthful Oriental bride. Both whites and blacks have considered successful black men married to white women (especially blond white women) as having a dynamic in their relationship which is not flattering to black people.

Basically, society looks at a successful black male married to a white female as having chosen the woman who goes with the house and the car.

Ummm ... no.

Maybe gutter-trash Black society looks at the successful Black male that way. The rest of us living here in reality land have no such views.

[Adam]

Shameful comments by Holmes at the link.

NRO

The guy is pretty much stark-raving.

He's also un-removable. Been there since 1974, and not going anywhere. Montgomery, much like Memphis, has a collective guilt complex about the Civil Rights movement, which means that pretty much any Black person who can manage to get up on a stump will get elected in those districts, no matter how absurd or outright insane they really are. Otherwise sane, rational people, people who completely and totally disagree with the candidate's politics, will still go vote for that person out of a sense of guilt for some past "wrong."

Atlanta has the same affliction. See: Cynthia McKinney

[Gingersnap]

No one seems shy about making it clear that they disapprove of a trophy wife when she is the same race as her husband. Many Americans have their own thoughts when they see a (caucasian) American male married to a war bride, mail order bride, younger or significantly youthful Oriental bride. Both whites and blacks have considered successful black men married to white women (especially blond white women) as having a dynamic in their relationship which is not flattering to black people.

Basically, society looks at a successful black male married to a white female as having chosen the woman who goes with the house and the car.

I seriously doubt you still qualify as a "trophy wife" when you have been married for over 25 years, you're post-menopausal, and you're kind of porky.

It's nobody's business who black people marry - including other black people.

It's everybody's business when an elected official lies in Congress while simultaneously insulting a Supreme Court judge's wife and insulting the judge in question by denigrating the man's well thought-out convictions.

I may not like the decisions rendered by these judges but I certainly don't think they are empty-headed lackeys.

[Novaheart]

Ummm ... no.

Maybe gutter-trash Black society looks at the successful Black male that way. The rest of us living here in reality land have no such views.

Pin a rose on you. The black male white female politics have been discussed candidly on almost every talk show. You would have to be blind not to notice that black male white female far outnumber white male black female.

Black men swore it was a myth. Black women swore it was the truth, but research now gives us the facts both sides have been waiting for. A recent online dating study conducted by researchers at the University of California Berkeley proves that African-American men really are more likely to date white women. In an attempt to explain the reason for this phenomenon, Professor Mendelsohn states, “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women… the hypothesis that some people have argued is that there is no surprise that black men should contact white women, because that’s where we get our notions of who’s pretty.”

That is not the end of the startling facts, however. African-American women’s worst fears continue to be confirmed. The Berkeley study also shows that African-American women are the group least likely to be contacted by men of any race.

http://www.yourblackworld.net/2013/06/uncategorized/myth-proven-true-black-men-more-likely-to-date-white-women-according-to-research/

[phillygirl]

Basically, society looks at a successful black male married to a white female as having chosen the woman who goes with the house and the car.

I must be very sheltered. I've never heard that.

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That is not the end of the startling facts, however. African-American women’s worst fears continue to be confirmed. The Berkeley study also shows that African-American women are the group least likely to be contacted by men of any race.
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http://www.yourblackworld.net/2013/0...g-to-research/

I doubt this has anything at all to do with physical attraction since attractive black women are considered hot by both black and white men (as well as other races). So, the problem isn't beauty standards - it must be something else. I'd guess it's an image problem.

If aliens had to describe black womanhood in the United States and they could only access data about black women through news reports and entertainment media, they would not be describing Condoleezza Rice. They would be describing women who weren't dating material, let alone marriage material. That's not the reality but it is the image today. Blame the media for constantly portraying black women as violent, bitchy, unstable, and vulgar. Blame the black community for agreeing that such portrayals are either comedic or "powerful".

[Novaheart]

I seriously doubt you still qualify as a "trophy wife" when you have been married for over 25 years, you're post-menopausal, and you're kind of porky.

Yeah, but 25 years ago she was still ten years younger than he was. SOme trophy wives not only endure but catch up to their husband. Old whathisname's wife did that. The one from South Carolina.

[Novaheart]

I must be very sheltered. I've never heard that.

I've always thought of you as cloistered.

[Novaheart]

I doubt this has anything at all to do with physical attraction since attractive black women are considered hot by both black and white men (as well as other races). So, the problem isn't beauty standards - it must be something else. I'd guess it's an image problem.

If aliens had to describe black womanhood in the United States and they could only access data about black women through news reports and entertainment media, they would not be describing Condoleezza Rice. They would be describing women who weren't dating material, let alone marriage material. That's not the reality but it is the image today. Blame the media for constantly portraying black women as violent, bitchy, unstable, and vulgar. Blame the black community for agreeing that such portrayals are either comedic or "powerful".

I rarely see a white man with a black woman of pronounced negroid features other than a noticeable race difference. I have read articles in which black women criticize the rappers for their apparent preference for light skinned black women as dancers and girlfriends. Some have criticized Mariah Carey for billing herself as black.

There may well be cases of mixed race relationships where there aren't power and politics dynamics as well as institutional prejudices, but they don't disprove the obvious.

Where is Dallas when we need her?

[Adam]

I doubt this has anything at all to do with physical attraction since attractive black women are considered hot by both black and white men (as well as other races). So, the problem isn't beauty standards - it must be something else. I'd guess it's an image problem.

If aliens had to describe black womanhood in the United States and they could only access data about black women through news reports and entertainment media, they would not be describing Condoleezza Rice. They would be describing women who weren't dating material, let alone marriage material. That's not the reality but it is the image today. Blame the media for constantly portraying black women as violent, bitchy, unstable, and vulgar. Blame the black community for agreeing that such portrayals are either comedic or "powerful".

My observation has been that it's at least 50% reality. And the stereotype of the "angry Black woman" is pushed as some sort of good thing. We've moved from Felicia Rashad and even "Weezie" Jefferson to Beyonce and "ain't no one got time fo' that" as the foil for the typical Black woman: always angry, and almost always both ignorant and stupid. Even Oprah does not act like a "ghetto" Black woman. Pretty much every successful Black woman I've ever encountered has completely rejected the image of the "angry Black woman."

I place a whole lot of the blame for the recent "celebration" of the "Prissification" (as I call it; "I don't know nuthin' 'bout birthin' no babies!") of Black women in the ghetto culture of treating women like shit unless you want to get some pussy out of the interaction. Just how long is any class of people going to take being called "bitchez" and "hoz" in popular culture before their overall image is tarnished in the population as a whole?

[Dallas]

I rarely see a white man with a black woman of pronounced negroid features other than a noticeable race difference. I have read articles in which black women criticize the rappers for their apparent preference for light skinned black women as dancers and girlfriends. Some have criticized Mariah Carey for billing herself as black.

There may well be cases of mixed race relationships where there aren't power and politics dynamics as well as institutional prejudices, but they don't disprove the obvious.

Where is Dallas when we need her?

Yes?

I don't know where to begin here. I can't figure out where to begin here.

But yes, it IS true... a black man can land a white woman with little effort. Me? I gotta work for mine. And I do mean work. I have to find a guy that likes me for ME, not just a box to tick off on 'exotic sexual experiences'. And I've been burned by that more times than I care to admit. On a forum where I'm semi-active, only now have white guys been even contemplating on approaching black women, and many are firmly convinced that - - we will literally castrate them on the spot if they don't know the magic words. And don't get me started on the reaction black men have toward the situation. And for a proactive personality like myself? I'm fucked. I constantly have to temper my aggression because it takes a lot less for a black woman to be seen as a bitch.

Next point. Black culture (and,by extension, culture as a whole) has done a number on black women in a deeper and harsher way than anyone wants to admit. It's something both black and white people have to share the blame on.

Anyhow, cough meds are kicking in.

~Dallas

[Billy Jingo]

I was born in the 60's and the world of interracial dating was never remotely this weird for me. I dated one girl who found me awkward in a different planet kind of way but I was about 19 years old, in the Army, and knee deep in the punk rock scene. All my relationships at the time where odd so I am not sure that counts.

[Novaheart]

I was born in the 60's and the world of interracial dating was never remotely this weird for me. I dated one girl who found me awkward in a different planet kind of way but I was about 19 years old, in the Army, and knee deep in the punk rock scene. All my relationships at the time where odd so I am not sure that counts.

In the sixties interracial dating was political.
In the 70's it was fashionable.
In the 80's it was fetishized.
In the 90's it was deglamorized.
In the 21st Century it's passé.

But seriously, I'm betting that there have been more interracial marriages in the US which don't even feature a black person, and yet all we talk about are black and white.