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    Today:

    THE PRESIDENT: Welcome to the White House. We are here to celebrate the life of an American hero. Cesar Chavez was a man who devoted this brief time that we have on Earth to making sure that this country lived up to some of its lofty ideals, the words of our founding, the idea that all of us are created equal -- a man who organized others to widen the circle of opportunity not just for the people he knew, but for future generations.

    And some of those future generations are here today. Cesar’s son, Paul, is here. (Applause.) There he is. I was looking for him. Some of his children -- some of his grandchildren and great-grandchildren are here. I did not have the honor of knowing Mr. Chavez, but I’d imagine that he’d be pretty proud to know that his granddaughter works in the White House. (Applause.) And not only does she know how to deliver an outstanding introduction -- (laughter) -- but she also does just an extraordinary job carrying on his work organizing people, but now all across the country, to engage on issues that are of importance to all Americans. And Julie just does an extraordinary job. We’re so proud of her. So, thank you, Julie, for the great introduction. (Applause.)

    A couple of other acknowledgements -- I want to acknowledge an outstanding Democratic leader in the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi. (Applause.) The great Dolores Huerta, our dear friend who co-founded the United Farm Workers along with Cesar. (Applause.) Rosario told me she was playing Dolores, and I thought I can see that -- there’s the same fire. I did have to say Rosario is a little taller. Just a little bit. (Laughter.)
    I want to thank the UFW’s current president, Arturo Rodriguez, a great friend of ours. Thank you. (Applause.) And I want to thank Diego Luna and the entire cast of “Cesar Chavez.” (Applause.) I told him I loved “Y Tu Mamá, También.” But we can’t screen that at the White House. (Laughter.) It’s a great movie, but this is a little more family-friendly here. (Laughter.)

    This movie, this film tells the story of a man guided by an enormous faith -- faith in a righteous cause and a loving God, and the dignity of every human being. And it reminds us how throughout our history that faith has been tested, and that it falls to ordinary Americans, ordinary people, to fight and restore that faith.

    Cesar himself said that he spent his first 20 years working as an organizer without a single major victory. But he never gave up. He kept on going, and the world is a better place because he did. And that’s one of the great lessons of his life. You don’t give up the fight no matter how long it takes. No matter how long the odds, you keep going, fueled by a simple creed -- sí, se puede.

    [....]

    We’ve got to keep fighting to make sure that our economy rewards the hard work of every American with a fair and living wage and equal pay for equal work. We’ve got to keep working to fix our broken immigration system. This is an example of where this is hard, but we’ve made progress and we are going to get this done. This is going to happen. It’s not a matter of if, just a matter of when. And I want it to happen now, so we are going to keep on pushing. (Applause.)

    Mr. Chavez once said, “When you have people together who believe in something very strongly -- whether it’s religion or politics or unions -- things happen.” And today, we’ve got labor leaders and CEOs and faith leaders and law enforcement, and they’ve come together and they’ve said it’s time to fix this broken immigration system. We’ve got Democrats and Republicans who have now passed in the Senate a comprehensive bill. And if we stay united, things will happen, things will get done.

    None of us can claim to know exactly what Cesar would have said about this fight, or any other. But I do think he would want us to remember that the debates we have are less about policy than they are about people. They’re about the lives of men and women, the young and not so young, who want nothing more than the chance to work hard, support their families, provide a future for their kids and their grandkids, earn their place in our American story. That’s what this is all about. They’re about our highest hopes and aspirations for this country that we love -- and the country that we leave for future generations.
    Actually, Mr. President, we don't have to "claim" anything. We already know exactly what Cesar Chavez would have said about your amnesty plan. He would have called them "illegal wetbacks.".
    It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
    In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
    Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
    Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

  • #2
    Originally posted by Adam View Post
    Today:



    Actually, Mr. President, we don't have to "claim" anything. We already know exactly what Cesar Chavez would have said about your amnesty plan. He would have called them "illegal wetbacks.".
    Yep. Chavez kept a pocketful of dimes for the sole purpose of calling Immigration every time he visited a work site that employed illegal aliens.

    His issue was worker rights - for Americans and for legal guest workers. He hated illegals and scabs.
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
      Yep. Chavez kept a pocketful of dimes for the sole purpose of calling Immigration every time he visited a work site that employed illegal aliens.

      His issue was worker rights - for Americans and for legal guest workers. He hated illegals and scabs.
      Actually, he hated scabs more and caused a whole lot of problems for legal immigrants. A former girlfriend's father was born in Mexico and got his green card 50 years ago when he was in his 20s. Chavez literally stole it from him and had him deported. It took him a year just to get it cleared up.

      The "champion" of worker's rights was actually just a common union thug with some celebrity status.
      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
      -John Locke

      "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
      -Newman

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      • #4
        Only Capital is allowed to play hardball so stoop, peasant!
        Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

        Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
          Only Capital is allowed to play hardball so stoop, peasant!
          That comment demonstrates the morally bankrupt view of unions. Criminal activities are excused as playing "hardball."
          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
          -John Locke

          "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
          -Newman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by scott View Post
            That comment demonstrates the morally bankrupt view of unions. Criminal activities are excused as playing "hardball."
            They need to buy more legislators so their morally bankrupt activities can not be considered criminal, just like Capital does.
            Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

            Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
              They need to buy more legislators so their morally bankrupt activities can not be considered criminal, just like Capital does.
              If unions are so great, why aren't you in one?
              "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
              -John Locke

              "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
              -Newman

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              • #8
                Originally posted by scott View Post
                If unions are so great, why aren't you in one?
                The same reason I'm not a vegetarian even though I like carrots, I suppose.
                Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

                Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                  The same reason I'm not a vegetarian even though I like carrots, I suppose.
                  No. It would be the same if you like carrots and talked about how they should be mandatory in every household but never ate them yourself.
                  "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                  -John Locke

                  "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                  -Newman

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scott View Post
                    No. It would be the same if you like carrots and talked about how they should be mandatory in every household but never ate them yourself.
                    That'll leave a mark.
                    If it pays, it stays

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                      That'll leave a mark.
                      Nah. By the time he reads this it'll be 9:00 on Monday morning and he'll have 30 more political sites to visit while switching quickly to some spreadsheet in case his boss walks by.

                      I'm not accusing him of being paid to post here, but he only posts here when he's getting paid by someone to sit in front of a computer.
                      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                      -John Locke

                      "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                      -Newman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scott View Post
                        Nah. By the time he reads this it'll be 9:00 on Monday morning and he'll have 30 more political sites to visit while switching quickly to some spreadsheet in case his boss walks by.

                        I'm not accusing him of being paid to post here, but he only posts here when he's getting paid by someone to sit in front of a computer.
                        There's a union for that?
                        If it pays, it stays

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scott View Post
                          Nah. By the time he reads this it'll be 9:00 on Monday morning and he'll have 30 more political sites to visit while switching quickly to some spreadsheet in case his boss walks by.

                          I'm not accusing him of being paid to post here, but he only posts here when he's getting paid by someone to sit in front of a computer.
                          Or not.
                          Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

                          Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                            Or not.
                            Frantic call from a Forum monitoring minion eh?
                            If it pays, it stays

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                              Frantic call from a Forum monitoring minion eh?
                              I'm not even sure what that means.

                              You guys are getting seriously weird. Does someone who disagrees with you freak you out that much? Or is it something deeper? Is it simply your self absorbed narcissism can't handle someone whose not impressed with how awesome you are? It really is kinda creepy, dude.
                              Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

                              Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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