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    Brutal Quinnipiac poll of Colorado: Obama’s job approval at 36/59, Hillary now trails three Republican contenders

    POSTED AT 4:01 PM ON NOVEMBER 20, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


    The worst state poll of his presidency? It’s his worst Quinnipiac state poll for sure, by their own admission, which is significant for two reasons. One: Colorado is, of course, a famously purple state and bellwether, one which helped Bush to the presidency in 2000 and 2004 and then broke for Obama in 2008 and 2012. The One is used to seeing his job approval 20 points underwater or more in red states, but Colorado hasn’t been a red state at the presidential level in nearly a decade. Lots of rehab work to be done by Democrats before the midterms.

    Two: This may be early evidence that the O-Care debacle is spilling over into perceptions of other Democrats, specifically the nominee-in-waiting. Hillary trails Chris Christie head to head in this one by eight points, which is an unusually large spread between them; even more unusual is that she also trails Rand Paul (by three) and Paul Ryan (by two) and is tied with Ted Cruz. Typically Christie’s the only Republican who leads her in these hypothetical 2016 match-ups, and even he ends up trailing her sometimes. In Colorado, Quinnipiac found him ahead by three in June and ahead by just one point in August — and now suddenly he’s creeping up on double digits. That’s due in part to the good press he got after his Jersey landslide, but if this was all about Christie, you wouldn’t see Paul and Ryan overtaking Hillary too. Something else is going on.

    Here’s what happens when you ask Coloradans whether they think their health care will be better next year because of O-Care or worse.

    (chart at site.)

    Lots of pessimism out there, most notably the -19 among women, a reliably Democratic group that tends to be more supportive of O-Care than men are. An ObamaCare optimist searching desperately for a silver lining could read that same data as proof that a clear majority thinks their health care will be better or, at worst, no different from how it is now, but that’s a poor interpretation for lots of reasons. For starters, part of the “no different” contingent may be under the impression that they’ll be able to keep their plans even if the suckers on the individual market can’t. Not true; America will see cancellations in group coverage soon enough, once the delay in the employer mandate expires. As more people are moved onto the exchanges, the problems consumers on the individual market are experiencing will only become more widespread — rate shock, access shock, and general annoyance at the realization that what Obama sold to the country as a big health-care upgrade for everyone is really just a redistribution scheme to have the healthy and middle-class pay for coverage for the poor and sick.
    More.

    Hot Air
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

  • #2
    I read this earlier..wished they would've thrown a question in on Hick.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Michele View Post
      I read this earlier..wished they would've thrown a question in on Hick.
      I'm going to work for Tom Tancredo next summer.
      "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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      • #4
        "[E]ven more unusual is that she also trails Rand Paul (by three) and Paul Ryan (by two) and is tied with Ted Cruz."

        That's weird. I've been assured many, many times that the whole country, most especially independents, absolutely hate Ted Cruz for shutting down the government. The guy is Satan incarnate, according to what I've been told, and he's done irreparable damage to the TEA Party brand with his radical, brazen exercise of the Constitution overwrought opposition to Obamacare.


        Hmph. Imagine that.
        Bask in the warmth of the Deep South
        No one will be denied:
        Big law suits and bathroom toots;
        We're all getting Dixie-fried.
        But somewhere Hank and Lefty
        Are rollin' in their graves
        While kudzu vines grow over signs that read "Jesus Saves."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Adam View Post
          "[E]ven more unusual is that she also trails Rand Paul (by three) and Paul Ryan (by two) and is tied with Ted Cruz."

          That's weird. I've been assured many, many times that the whole country, most especially independents, absolutely hate Ted Cruz for shutting down the government. The guy is Satan incarnate, according to what I've been told, and he's done irreparable damage to the TEA Party brand with his radical, brazen exercise of the Constitution overwrought opposition to Obamacare.


          Hmph. Imagine that.
          I still can't believe that nobody on the left center has noticed that Obama could have avoided the shutdown for simply agreeing to do what he's going to have to do anyway - delay the individual mandate for a year.
          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."

          -John Locke

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          • #6
            Originally posted by scott View Post
            I still can't believe that nobody on the left center has noticed that Obama could have avoided the shutdown for simply agreeing to do what he's going to have to do anyway - delay the individual mandate for a year.
            How dare you state the obvious!
            "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by scott View Post
              I still can't believe that nobody on the left center has noticed that Obama could have avoided the shutdown for simply agreeing to do what he's going to have to do anyway - delay the individual mandate for a year.
              Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
              How dare you state the obvious!
              Pretty much.

              And I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh ....
              Bask in the warmth of the Deep South
              No one will be denied:
              Big law suits and bathroom toots;
              We're all getting Dixie-fried.
              But somewhere Hank and Lefty
              Are rollin' in their graves
              While kudzu vines grow over signs that read "Jesus Saves."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by scott View Post
                I still can't believe that nobody on the left center has noticed that Obama could have avoided the shutdown for simply agreeing to do what he's going to have to do anyway - delay the individual mandate for a year.
                Oh, and Obama cranked up "shutdown pain" because he got convinced by the "never let a crisis go to waste" crowd, and I'm firmly convinced that this will ultimately backfire with a whipsaw effect. There's so much footage out there of WWII veterans trying to get into the National Mall, and NO ONE really buys that it was even remotely necessary, and they won't buy the Democrat's line come election time. I'm betting that being hitched to the Obama wagon will be about as useful as holding a pallet full of Quickrete in the middle of Lake Michigan come a year from today.

                Obviously, I may wind up eating crow in about 350 days, but I rather doubt it. Obamacare is an anchor with the mass of a black hole at this point. NO ONE likes this debacle. Voters are going to revolt, and no one is going to blame the Republicans or especially the TEA Party for a government shutdown that no one other than WWII veterans who were shut out of a national monument otherwise open to the public, shut down solely because the lord and savior threw a temper tantrum to rival a two-year-old in the checkout aisle.
                Bask in the warmth of the Deep South
                No one will be denied:
                Big law suits and bathroom toots;
                We're all getting Dixie-fried.
                But somewhere Hank and Lefty
                Are rollin' in their graves
                While kudzu vines grow over signs that read "Jesus Saves."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Adam View Post
                  Oh, and Obama cranked up "shutdown pain" because he got convinced by the "never let a crisis go to waste" crowd, and I'm firmly convinced that this will ultimately backfire with a whipsaw effect. There's so much footage out there of WWII veterans trying to get into the National Mall, and NO ONE really buys that it was even remotely necessary, and they won't buy the Democrat's line come election time. I'm betting that being hitched to the Obama wagon will be about as useful as holding a pallet full of Quickrete in the middle of Lake Michigan come a year from today.

                  Obviously, I may wind up eating crow in about 350 days, but I rather doubt it. Obamacare is an anchor with the mass of a black hole at this point. NO ONE likes this debacle. Voters are going to revolt, and no one is going to blame the Republicans or especially the TEA Party for a government shutdown that no one other than WWII veterans who were shut out of a national monument otherwise open to the public, shut down solely because the lord and savior threw a temper tantrum to rival a two-year-old in the checkout aisle.
                  Only if the non-Progressives can actually do something to excite the voters and so far there just isn't any sign of that. Look at the non-results from the 2010 election.
                  "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."

                  -John Locke

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