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    The Obama administration is issuing new recommendations on classroom discipline that seek to end the apparent disparities in how students of different races are punished for violating school rules.

    Civil rights advocates have long said that a "school-to-prison" pipeline stems from overly zealous school discipline policies targeting black and Hispanic students that bring them out of school and into the court system.

    Attorney General Eric Holder said the problem often stems from well intentioned "zero-tolerance" policies that too often inject the criminal justice system into the resolution of problems. Zero tolerance policies, a tool that became popular in the 1990s, often spell out uniform and swift punishment for offenses such as truancy, smoking or carrying a weapon. Violators can lose classroom time or become saddled with a criminal record.

    "Ordinary troublemaking can sometimes provoke responses that are overly severe, including out of school suspensions, expulsions and even referral to law enforcement and then you end up with kids that end up in police precincts instead of the principal's office," Holder said.

    In American schools, black students without disabilities were more than three times as likely as whites to be expelled or suspended, according to government civil rights data collection from 2011-2012. Although black students made up 15 percent of students in the data collection, they made up more than a third of students suspended once, 44 percent of those suspended more than once and more than a third of students expelled.

    More than half of students involved in school-related arrests or referred to law enforcement were Hispanic or black, according to the data.

    The recommendations being issued Wednesday encourage schools to ensure that all school personnel are trained in classroom management, conflict resolution and approaches to de-escalate classroom disruptions.

    Among the other recommendations:

    —Ensure that school personnel understand that they are responsible for administering routine student discipline instead of security or police officers.

    —Draw clear distinctions about the responsibilities of school security personnel.

    —Provide opportunities for school security officers to develop relationships with students and parents.

    The government advises schools to establish procedures on how to distinguish between disciplinary infractions appropriately handled by school officials compared with major threats to school safety. And, it encourages schools to collect and monitor data that security or police officers take to ensure nondiscrimination.

    The recommendations are nonbinding, but, in essence, the federal government is telling the school districts around the country that they should adhere to the principles of fairness and equity in student discipline or face strong action if they don't.

    Already, in March of last year, the Justice Department spearheaded a settlement with the Meridian, Miss., school district to end discriminatory disciplinary practices. The black students in the district were facing harsher punishment than whites for similar misbehavior.


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    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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    After my brief (Thank heavens!) experience with teaching in the public schools, I think I favor the Post Office approach to school discipline. For any misconduct short of criminality, bore'em to death. At USPS, if a worker has an on-the-job injury and is released to "light duty," the employer calls the worker in to work, puts him/her in a bare room with only a desk and chair, and requires the worker to sit there and do nothing for 8 hours a day. Now, at first some people might think, "Hey, what a great deal! Getting paid my regular salary for doing nothing!" But usually by the end of the first day, the employee either quits or goes back to her/his regular duties. Turns out that sitting in one place with nothing to do all day (no books, phones, games, not even pencil and paper allowed) is NO FUN.

    So, the disruptive students, the ones who listen to their music or text instead of paying attention and doing the work, the ones who wander in and out of the classroom at will or are habitually late and unprepared...put them in small individual rooms with no phone, games, recreational reading (although that's not usually even on the menu) or other diversions and let them just sit there for 6 hours a day. Give them a button they can push to alert their keeper if they want to go back to the classroom and behave, but nothing else. And if they ask to return to class but then misbehave again, send them to the boredom box for a fixed time before they're allowed to return to class again.
    "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
      After my brief (Thank heavens!) experience with teaching in the public schools, I think I favor the Post Office approach to school discipline. For any misconduct short of criminality, bore'em to death. At USPS, if a worker has an on-the-job injury and is released to "light duty," the employer calls the worker in to work, puts him/her in a bare room with only a desk and chair, and requires the worker to sit there and do nothing for 8 hours a day. Now, at first some people might think, "Hey, what a great deal! Getting paid my regular salary for doing nothing!" But usually by the end of the first day, the employee either quits or goes back to her/his regular duties. Turns out that sitting in one place with nothing to do all day (no books, phones, games, not even pencil and paper allowed) is NO FUN.

      So, the disruptive students, the ones who listen to their music or text instead of paying attention and doing the work, the ones who wander in and out of the classroom at will or are habitually late and unprepared...put them in small individual rooms with no phone, games, recreational reading (although that's not usually even on the menu) or other diversions and let them just sit there for 6 hours a day. Give them a button they can push to alert their keeper if they want to go back to the classroom and behave, but nothing else. And if they ask to return to class but then misbehave again, send them to the boredom box for a fixed time before they're allowed to return to class again.
      That would be great if schools had 20 or 30 cells available along with a watcher for every student. Without constant monitoring, students would just urinate in the cells and deface them and then claim abuse and lawyer up.

      Make the kid stay home and make the parent pay $30 bucks a day for the opportunity for more family time. I guarantee that the kid would either play by the rules or run away and live on the street. Not too many parents would let their kid get away with taking that much money out of the house just for being a fool.
      "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
        That would be great if schools had 20 or 30 cells available along with a watcher for every student. Without constant monitoring, students would just urinate in the cells and deface them and then claim abuse and lawyer up.

        Make the kid stay home and make the parent pay $30 bucks a day for the opportunity for more family time. I guarantee that the kid would either play by the rules or run away and live on the street. Not too many parents would let their kid get away with taking that much money out of the house just for being a fool.
        Too complicated, both your scenario and mine. What we really need is to give schools back the option of kicking out kids who don't behave. One regular teacher explained to me that the high school kids stay enrolled because their parents lose money from their TANF benefits if the kid's not in school. But there's no requirement that s/he DO anything but show up. So many don't do anything but show up and fuck off. Allow the schools to eject those kids with the commensurate reduction in benefits and see if that promotes parental responsibility. If not, well, you've still cleaned up the classroom so the kids who DO want to learn, can.
        "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
          Too complicated, both your scenario and mine. What we really need is to give schools back the option of kicking out kids who don't behave. One regular teacher explained to me that the high school kids stay enrolled because their parents lose money from their TANF benefits if the kid's not in school. But there's no requirement that s/he DO anything but show up. So many don't do anything but show up and fuck off. Allow the schools to eject those kids with the commensurate reduction in benefits and see if that promotes parental responsibility. If not, well, you've still cleaned up the classroom so the kids who DO want to learn, can.
          I have long believed that 13 year old kids should be able to drop out/be expelled. Give employers a tax break or something to hire them at a reduced wage. No minimum wage for drop-outs/expelled kids unless they are emancipated and not living with relatives. These kids get nothing from child support, SNAP, or anything else. If their parent wants to float them for 5 years, that's her business.

          I would guess that more of these kids would be motivated to attend GED classes and get some kind of training after that. As you say, if they don't, well, too bad. At least they are out of the school so the ones left can learn in peace. Experience is very motivational for some people.
          "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
            I have long believed that 13 year old kids should be able to drop out/be expelled. Give employers a tax break or something to hire them at a reduced wage. No minimum wage for drop-outs/expelled kids unless they are emancipated and not living with relatives. These kids get nothing from child support, SNAP, or anything else. If their parent wants to float them for 5 years, that's her business.

            I would guess that more of these kids would be motivated to attend GED classes and get some kind of training after that. As you say, if they don't, well, too bad. At least they are out of the school so the ones left can learn in peace. Experience is very motivational for some people.
            Not only will the schools never do this, they actively impede kids who, for whatever reason, WANT to "test out" of high school, say to go to work or pursue a non-academic type of specialized training. In California, they take away your driver's license if you leave school for ANY REASON before you're 18.
            "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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            • #7
              Naturally this race based approach to discipline implies that if the numbers don't match the demographics then racism must be afoot. Bullshit. Parents need to tell their kids "If you are the victim of violence, robbery, or extortion the YOU have my permission to call 911 and then call me."
              The year's at the spring
              And day's at the morn;
              Morning's at seven;
              The hill-side's dew-pearled;
              The lark's on the wing;
              The snail's on the thorn:
              God's in his heaven—
              All's right with the world!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                Not only will the schools never do this, they actively impede kids who, for whatever reason, WANT to "test out" of high school, say to go to work or pursue a non-academic type of specialized training. In California, they take away your driver's license if you leave school for ANY REASON before you're 18.
                That's crazy.
                "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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