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    Cortez Masto defeats Laxalt in Nevada, handing Democrats control of the Senate (msn.com)

    What's the over/under on Dems keeping the House?
    • "Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
    • "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters." — Elon Musk, clarifying Fauci:
    • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.​​
    • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

  • #2
    I think it's going to stay at 50/50

    But at least the GOP got the house so everyone can breathe a bit - why do Democrats always do this?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by scott View Post
      I think it's going to stay at 50/50

      But at least the GOP got the house so everyone can breathe a bit - why do Democrats always do this?
      Maybe your information is better than mine. Last I see is this, from yesterday:

      2022 Midterm election results: Republicans need just seven seats to capture the House majority | Fox News

      The results of about two dozen congressional races across the country are still outstanding and all Republicans need to successfully flip the chamber (and retiring House Speaker Nancy Pelosi) are seven of them.

      So far, after Tuesday’s midterm elections results, Republicans have secured 211 seats of the chamber's 435 members — just shy of a 218-member majority.

      Crucial contests in Alaska, California, Colorado, and Maine are all that stand in the way of the GOP celebrating a major victory in the midterm elections or potentially admitting an unexpected failure.

      Republicans are currently projected to win a majority in the chamber, although final counts may not be known until early next week.
      The remaining races include:

      Alaska's at-large Congressional District: Democratic Rep. Mary Peltola and Republican Sarah Palin.

      Arizona:
      AZ-01 with Democrat Jevin Hodge and Republican Rep. David Schweikert.
      AZ-06 with Democrat Kirsten Engel and Republican Juan Ciscomani.

      California:
      CA-03 with Democrat Kermit Jones and Republican Kevin Kiley.
      CA-06 with Democrat Rep. Ami Bera and Republican Tamika Hamilton.
      CA-09 with Democrat Rep. Josh Harder and Republican Tom Patti.
      CA-13 with Democrat Adam Gray and Republican John Duarte.
      CA-21 with Democrat Rep. Jim Costa and Republican Michael Maher
      CA-22 with Democrat Rudy Salas and Republican Rep. David Valadao
      CA-26 with Democrat Rep. Julia Brownley and Republican Matt Jacobs
      CA-27 with Democrat Christy Smith and Republican Rep. Mike Garcia
      CA-35 with Democrat Rep. Norma Torres and Republican Mike Cargile
      CA-41 with Democrat Will Rollins and Republican Rep. Ken Calvert
      CA-45 with Democrat Jay Chen and Republican Rep. Michelle Steel
      CA-47 with Democrat Rep. Katie Porter and Republican Scott Baugh
      CA-49 with Democrat Rep. Mike Levin and Republican Brian Maryott
      *CA-15, while undecided, features two Democrats. This is also the case for CA-34.

      Colorado:
      CO-03 with Democrat Adam Frisch and Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert
      CO-08 with Democrat Yadira Caraveo and Republican Barbara Kirkmeyer

      Maine:
      ME-02 with Democrat Rep. Jared Golden and Republican Bruce Poliquin

      New York:
      NY-22 with Democrat Francis Conole and Republican Brandon Williams

      Oregon:
      OR-05 with Democrat Jamie McLeod-Skinner and Republican Lori Chavez-DeRemer
      OR-06 with Democrat Andrea Salinas and Republican Mike Erickson

      Washington:
      WA-03 with Democrat Marie Gluesenkamp Perez and Republican Joe Kent
      • "Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
      • "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters." — Elon Musk, clarifying Fauci:
      • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.​​
      • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
      • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
      • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
      • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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      • #4
        These long, drawn out vote counts don't give people confidence in our voting system. How can it take days to tabulate in one state, and hours in another?

        Mark
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Newman View Post
          Maybe your information is better than mine. Last I see is this, from yesterday:

          2022 Midterm election results: Republicans need just seven seats to capture the House majority | Fox News
          Leftover from the 'rules' the D's implemented during covid.
          They used covid to change how people could vote , when they could vote and how they would be counted.

          Notice that Florida with an R governor kept the state open and Ariz was closed. down.
          Note that in Ariz the Sec of State is running for gov but did not recuse herself. She was in her office 19 days last year..
          Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
          and lost …
          But the Republicans are racist.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Newman View Post
            Maybe your information is better than mine. Last I see is this, from yesterday:

            2022 Midterm election results: Republicans need just seven seats to capture the House majority | Fox News
            Peltola will win Alaska.
            If it pays, it stays

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Newman View Post
              What's the over/under on Dems keeping the House?
              It looks like the Republicans get the House.

              Trump-Backed Kevin Kiley Puts GOP over Top to House Majority (breitbart.com)

              • "Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
              • "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters." — Elon Musk, clarifying Fauci:
              • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.​​
              • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
              • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
              • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
              • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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              • #8
                It amazes me that millions of people would vote for an abstract like the ability to abort a baby, (even if it never effects them personally) over concrete real world, every day things, such as government created inflation that effects their lives personally daily.
                Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
                and lost …
                But the Republicans are racist.

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                • #9
                  I don't typically talk about the abortion issues, primarily because I will never have one and will never cause one to be required, but if your entire political stance and voting, for or against, is predicated on this issue alone and not inflation, over reaching authority of governmental armed police and quasi-police forces, media brainwashing, or the politicians creating their fortunes off the policies they create for them but not us, then basically you are truly fucked up.

                  Flame away.
                  We are so fucked.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Newman View Post
                    It looks like the Republicans get the House.

                    Trump-Backed Kevin Kiley Puts GOP over Top to House Majority (breitbart.com)

                    FOX hasn't called this race yet:

                    BALANCE OF POWER: Where do the uncalled House races stand as GOP nears majority? | Fox News

                    As Republicans are now one seat away from capturing a majority of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, there are still 9 races yet to be called that will determine how close the margins could be for the GOP should it ultimately prevail.

                    A party must win 218 seats to win a majority in the 435-seat body, a feat appearing to be within the grasp of the GOP, who have won 217 seats so far to Democrats' 209.

                    Here is where the remaining races stand as votes continue to be counted in states across the country:

                    AK-AL - Alaska's At Large Congressional District has been rated by Fox News' Power Rankings as "lean Democratic" due to the state's newly implemented ranked-choice voting system giving incumbent Democrat Rep. Mary Peltola an advantage against her Republican opponents, former Gov. Sarah Palin and Nick Begich. Peltola lead in the first round of the vote, with Palin in second and Begich in third, but failed to secure 50%, meaning those who voted for the candidate with the least number of votes will have their second choice vote reallocated to the other candidates until one reaches 50%. The second round tabulation is scheduled to take place on Wednesday, Nov. 23.

                    Alaska congressional candidates, from left, Democrat Mary Peltola and Republicans Sarah Palin and Nick Begich. (Brandon Bell, Mary Peltola campaign, Ash Adams for The Washington Post via Getty Images)

                    ME-02 - Maine similarly implemented a ranked-choice voting system following a state-wide referendum in 2016. Incumbent Democratic Rep. Jared Golden failed to reach 50% of the vote last week, but is currently leading former Republican Congressman Bruce Poliquin, who represented the district from 2015 to 2019. The second round tabulation is scheduled for Tuesday, Nov. 15. Fox News' Power Rankings has rated the race as a toss-up.

                    CA-03 - Republican Kevin Kiley holds a commanding lead over Democrat Kermit Jones; however, approximately only a little over half of ballots have been counted in the "likely Republican" race. California accepts mail-ballots for the week following Election Day, although the ballots must be postmarked by Election Day. The ballots must also go through a signature verification process before being counted. . . .

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                    • "Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                    • "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters." — Elon Musk, clarifying Fauci:
                    • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.​​
                    • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
                    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                    • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
                    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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                    • #11
                      They have finally called CO-3 for Lauren Bohbert (sp?), which apparently seals the deal for the House GOP beyond any question.

                      I don't want to be a tinfoil-hatter, and I try very hard to avoid it, with each passing day I have to wonder just exactly how much hanky-panky has gone on this time around. By any and all accounts, this should have been a walk-away for Republicans. Now, I think I've said it here before: the GOP seems uninterested in doing the hard work of campaigning, and that's surely part of it. But with a President with approval ratings in the toilet, the economy in freefall, inflation going up faster than a SpaceX rocket, no one can afford groceries or gas, the absolute debacle in Afghanistan, and unbelievable amounts of scandal surrounding basically everything the White House ever says or does, this should have spelled doom for Democrats this time around. And yet somehow it didn't, just like somehow a demented old white guy campaigning from his 1970s-era basement with faux paneling managed to garner 81 million votes.

                      Something's not right here.

                      Now, I will readily grant that Dr. Oz was a crap candidate, essentially a carpet-bagger. But for God's sake, at least he's not Uncle Fester with a mental problem. And the story repeats itself across the country. What's gone on in Arizona, home of Barry freaking Goldwater, that causes them to vote for Hobbs, a kook who clearly had a conflict of interest in the first place? Herschel Walker should have been a run-away against a slumlord in crime-ridden Atlanta (Buckhead is not safe anymore. BUCKHEAD!), but instead we have a run-off. Yes, Walker has had his problems in the past, and he has addressed them, in a very upfront and personal way, repentant for his actions in the past. People in Georgia are forgiving Christians (as long as UGA doesn't lose) and they have and will forgive Walker's transgressions if he seeks their forgiveness (which he has, on multiple occasions), but some race-huckster slumlord who is very clearly documented as having scammed taxpayers while he lives in some $7000/month mansion somehow gets even close to (and possibly will) re-election? This is the state of Zell Miller, for cryin' out loud!

                      Now, I know and accept that there are some shenanigans in pretty much every election. We've all known this since at least 1960, when Nixon was reputed to say "he cheated fair and square." But this is ludicrous. We're going to need to take a very hard look at how we conduct elections in this country. Yes, it should remain up to the states to decide, but I think that we seriously need to consider putting in some guardrails there. Mail-in voting simply has to go away, voter ID should become a requirement nation-wide, and we need to totally re-think early voting in general. With every step of "making voting easy," we just open the whole system up to more and more fraud. Time to clamp down on that.
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                      • #12
                        "essentially a carpet-bagger."

                        Hell, Sen. Clinton was a carpetbagger in NY, as was (I dimly recall) Sen. Robert Kennedy before her. The GOP of those times tried to use the carpetbagging label against them, to no avail.

                        Blue voters have no problem with carpetbagging.
                        • "Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                        • "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters." — Elon Musk, clarifying Fauci:
                        • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.​​
                        • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
                        • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                        • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
                        • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Adam View Post
                          They have finally called CO-3 for Lauren Bohbert (sp?), which apparently seals the deal for the House GOP beyond any question.

                          I don't want to be a tinfoil-hatter, and I try very hard to avoid it, with each passing day I have to wonder just exactly how much hanky-panky has gone on this time around. By any and all accounts, this should have been a walk-away for Republicans. Now, I think I've said it here before: the GOP seems uninterested in doing the hard work of campaigning, and that's surely part of it. But with a President with approval ratings in the toilet, the economy in freefall, inflation going up faster than a SpaceX rocket, no one can afford groceries or gas, the absolute debacle in Afghanistan, and unbelievable amounts of scandal surrounding basically everything the White House ever says or does, this should have spelled doom for Democrats this time around. And yet somehow it didn't, just like somehow a demented old white guy campaigning from his 1970s-era basement with faux paneling managed to garner 81 million votes.

                          Something's not right here.

                          Now, I will readily grant that Dr. Oz was a crap candidate, essentially a carpet-bagger. But for God's sake, at least he's not Uncle Fester with a mental problem. And the story repeats itself across the country. What's gone on in Arizona, home of Barry freaking Goldwater, that causes them to vote for Hobbs, a kook who clearly had a conflict of interest in the first place? Herschel Walker should have been a run-away against a slumlord in crime-ridden Atlanta (Buckhead is not safe anymore. BUCKHEAD!), but instead we have a run-off. Yes, Walker has had his problems in the past, and he has addressed them, in a very upfront and personal way, repentant for his actions in the past. People in Georgia are forgiving Christians (as long as UGA doesn't lose) and they have and will forgive Walker's transgressions if he seeks their forgiveness (which he has, on multiple occasions), but some race-huckster slumlord who is very clearly documented as having scammed taxpayers while he lives in some $7000/month mansion somehow gets even close to (and possibly will) re-election? This is the state of Zell Miller, for cryin' out loud!

                          Now, I know and accept that there are some shenanigans in pretty much every election. We've all known this since at least 1960, when Nixon was reputed to say "he cheated fair and square." But this is ludicrous. We're going to need to take a very hard look at how we conduct elections in this country. Yes, it should remain up to the states to decide, but I think that we seriously need to consider putting in some guardrails there. Mail-in voting simply has to go away, voter ID should become a requirement nation-wide, and we need to totally re-think early voting in general. With every step of "making voting easy," we just open the whole system up to more and more fraud. Time to clamp down on that.
                          Georgia may be red, but Atlanta is blue, and Warnock is an incumbent. 2 strikes. Walker is a brain-damaged former pro football player with no relevant experience. If we're going to call Fetterman's mental condition out (and it's obviously a legitimate concern), let's call out Walker's TBI and resulting mental instability as well. Strike 3. No good choices in that race either.

                          As to some, perhaps many, of the other contests, yeah, I think there was at least some political monkey business. And this "ranked-choice" voting is bad news, elevating efficiency (no run-off) over election integrity. I also do not like early voting and mail voting. Early voting encourages people to "get it over with" before they've heard all the information. I marked up my ballot early in the race, and then changed a number of votes before going in to pull the lever (which, here, is coloring in the circle - more on that later) on Election Day. Voting should not be a chore to get done as quickly as possible, but a trust, to execute with careful thought. Mail voting should be available to people who are competent to vote but have physical, medical, or other compelling reasons not to go in person. It should be at least as difficult to get out of as jury duty. I emphatically don't agree with what you said in an earlier post, that it's OK if it takes HRH's handicapped client all day to get out and vote. In spite of her disability, she works and attends physical rehab and doctors' appointments, does her home exercises and as much self-care as she is capable of, and taking all day to vote would be a major hardship, even when she had HRH to drive her to the polling place; when she has to use public transit, it's exhausting and prevents her doing anything else for several days. BUT, "I can't take off work" or "I hate standing in line" isn't a good reason to skip going to the polls. I stood in line to vote when I had HRH doing gymnastics on my sciatic nerve (I was 7 months pregnant).A little effort is not too much to ask.

                          I also don't like color-in-the-circle ballots. If you color a little outside the circle, it can cause your ballot to be rejected. If you don't color in enough of the circle, it can cause your ballot to be rejected. people with vision problems, tremors, arthritis, and a host of other small disabilities cannot consistently color in the tiny circle. Hanging chads notwithstanding, punch cards or check marks or actual levers are preferable. Exercising the franchise should turn on qualifications to vote, not fine motor coordination.
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                          • #14
                            Comparing Walker to Fetterman is farcical.
                            • "Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                            • "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters." — Elon Musk, clarifying Fauci:
                            • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.​​
                            • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
                            • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                            • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
                            • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

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                            • #15
                              Herschel Walker had a lot of problems, in my opinion. Now, I can't say I followed the race all that closely, and perhaps I was taken in by the Dems "smear" campaign of him. However, he doesn't seem to be a decent human being of any sort. Given that there was credible evidence that he was involved in at least one abortion; that he was abusive to his wife and children that he did acknowledge and having only tangential relationships with other, running on a moral candidacy of no abortions with no exceptions and being a "god fearing family man" is just too hypocritical to swallow, particularly when he has 0 background that says he's qualified otherwise. The GOP can and should do better. As for the Pa race...it was abominable all the way around. I don't like general slurs being thrown around because someone had a stroke. There is a way of questioning someone's mental acuity for the job and then there is just downright meanness (yes, I'm talking about the constant chatter about people drooling...seriously, it pisses me off!). I don't think Fetterman is up for the job for a lot of reasons. I think he is low class, I don't like his liberal politics and add to that he has suffered a brain injury that at the moment doesn't seem to have healed sufficiently for him to be at his best (even if his best is not something that I personally would agree with). But then we have Oz. A carpet bagging snake oil salesman whose only interest in being in the Senate in Pennsylvania is as a stepping stone to something larger...a la a Trumpian type candidacy for president. Pa. was screwed over on the options this year.
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