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    Last Sunday, The New York Times published a front-page article about the heartfelt need of California farmers for more illegal aliens.

    The first tip-off that heinous public policy ideas were coming was that the Times introduced farmer Chuck Herrin, owner of a farm-labor contracting company, as a "lifelong Republican." That's Times-speak for "liberal."

    Herrin admitted that he employs a lot of illegal aliens and bitterly complained that they lived in fear of "Border Patrol and deportations." (But, apparently, he doesn't live in fear of admitting he's violating our immigration laws.)

    Sorry that running a country inconveniences you, Chuck.

    He said his illegal alien employees deserved amnesty because if "we keep them here and not do anything for them once they get old, that's really extortion."

    As the punch line goes, "What's this 'we,' paleface?"

    Taxpayers have been subsidizing Chuck Herrin's underpayment of his illegal labor force for decades, with skyrocketing taxes to pay for schools, roads, bridges, food stamps, health care and so on. Now Herrin thinks "we" are supposed to support his illegal employees in their old age, too.

    Here's another idea: How about a federal law mandating that employers of illegal aliens take responsibility for the people they hire? Why is the taxpayer on the hook for illegal aliens' food, housing and medical care, when Chuck Herrin got 100 percent of the profit from their cheap labor?

    We don't allow chemical companies to dump pollutants in rivers, walk away and then say, "If we dump chemicals in rivers and we don't clean them once the plant is gone, that's really criminal."

    No, you dumped the chemicals -- not "we." And you, Chuck Herrin, got the cheap labor -- not "we."

    "We" got hospital emergency rooms jammed with illegal aliens when we came in with heart attacks. "We" got the crime, drunk-driving and drug trafficking associated with illegal aliens. "We" got the overcrowded schools filled with kids whose illegal alien parents don't pay property taxes. "We" got to press "one" for English.


    This is even worse than the Wall Street bailouts -- another example of fat cats pocketing 100 percent of the profits when business is good, but demanding a taxpayer handout when their investments go south. At least the Wall Street bailouts didn't alter the country forever by giving the Democrats 30 million new voters.

    According to the California Hospital Association, health care for illegal aliens is costing state taxpayers well over $1 billion a year.. Eighty-four hospitals across California have already been forced to close because of unpaid bills by illegal aliens.

    Last year alone, California taxpayers paid $32 million for indigents' health care at hospitals located in Fresno County-- which happens to be where Chuck Herrin's company is based. How about submitting a portion of that cost to Herrin?

    Here's your bill for $13 million.

    What's this for?

    The county hospital. You've been paying your employees $20 an hour, and that's just not enough to pay for their measles and tuberculosis treatments, not to mention delivery of their premature babies. No one's saying it's your fault, but it's not the county hospital's fault either.

    Luckily, you've got deep pockets, Chuck -- several hundred million dollars a year, we understand -- thanks in part to how little you pay your workers, who are burdening our local services.


    Not only should employers of illegal aliens be responsible for their employees' becoming public charges, but they ought to be legally responsible for any crimes their illegal workers commit, just as parents can be for the crimes of their minor children, and bars can be for the behavior of their over-served customers.

    Why should employers of illegal aliens be allowed to externalize their costs, while keeping 100 percent of the profits?

    The very fact that the American taxpayer is required to subsidize illegal alien farm labor -- to say nothing of anti-competitive marketing orders, tariffs and subsidies given to farmers -- proves that we're propping up an industry the country doesn't need.


    More at Link

    I'm not always a fan of the way Ann delivers but I thought this was good.
    May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
    Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
    And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
    may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

  • #2
    The first tip-off that heinous public policy ideas were coming was that the Times introduced farmer Chuck Herrin, owner of a farm-labor contracting company, as a "lifelong Republican." That's Times-speak for "liberal."
    I got all the way to the second sentence before finding a lie.

    Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
    HERRIN JR, CHUCK
    COALINGA,CA 93210
    WORTH FARMS/PARTNER 9/21/11 $400 Valadao, David (R)
    HERRIN, CHUCK
    COALINGA,CA 93210
    FARMER 10/28/11 $500 Lucas, Frank D (R)
    Last edited by Norm dePlume; Friday, April 4, 2014, 12:48 PM.
    Enjoy.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
      I got all the way to the second sentence before finding a lie.

      Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
      HERRIN JR, CHUCK
      COALINGA,CA 93210
      WORTH FARMS/PARTNER 9/21/11 $400 Valadao, David (R)
      HERRIN, CHUCK
      COALINGA,CA 93210
      FARMER 10/28/11 $500 Lucas, Frank D (R)
      Hardly a lie. That's her opinion of the NYT usage of "lifelong Republican."
      May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
      Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
      And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
      may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Michele View Post
        Hardly a lie. That's her opinion of the NYT usage of "lifelong Republican."
        Just an opinion. Yeah, that's always the cop-out when caught peddling misinformation, isn't it? Well, my opinion is that she just accused the NYT of routinely referring to liberals as lifelong Republicans, which is a lie. And in this particular instance, the guy that the NYT called a lifelong Republican has a documented history of donating to Republican candidates, which supports the "lifelong Republican" description rather more than Coulter's "liberal" description.
        Enjoy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
          Just an opinion. Yeah, that's always the cop-out when caught peddling misinformation, isn't it? Well, my opinion is that she just accused the NYT of routinely referring to liberals as lifelong Republicans, which is a lie. And in this particular instance, the guy that the NYT called a lifelong Republican has a documented history of donating to Republican candidates, which supports the "lifelong Republican" description rather more than Coulter's "liberal" description.
          Don't you ever get tired of always trying to come up with some sort of diversion from the main theme of a thread? Okay, for Norm, this fellow is a lifelong republican. Now that your boo-boo lip is all fixed, you can moveon.
          May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
          Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
          And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
          may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
            I got all the way to the second sentence before finding a lie.

            Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
            HERRIN JR, CHUCK
            COALINGA,CA 93210
            WORTH FARMS/PARTNER 9/21/11 $400 Valadao, David (R)
            HERRIN, CHUCK
            COALINGA,CA 93210
            FARMER 10/28/11 $500 Lucas, Frank D (R)
            Howinahell is that a lie? The guy gave a sum total of $900 once in his life and that somehow makes him a "lifelong Republican?" And that somehow means that he can't be a liberal?

            David Valadao won on water. Farmers are furious with the feds (and the state) cutting off their wager to save the speckled junkfish or whatever the hell it is. The San Joachin valley hasn't elected a Republican in 20 years, and Valadao campaigned in Spanish, stumping for amnesty. Not exactly TEA Party bona fides.

            Frank Lucas chairs the agriculture committee. GovTrack calls him a moderate Republican. No doubt Herrin wanted to grease the wheels to get something done on getting some water.


            Your citation in no way demonstrates that what Coulter said was a lie.
            It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
            In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
            Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
            Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Adam View Post
              Howinahell is that a lie? The guy gave a sum total of $900 once in his life and that somehow makes him a "lifelong Republican?" And that somehow means that he can't be a liberal?

              David Valadao won on water. Farmers are furious with the feds (and the state) cutting off their wager to save the speckled junkfish or whatever the hell it is. The San Joachin valley hasn't elected a Republican in 20 years, and Valadao campaigned in Spanish, stumping for amnesty. Not exactly TEA Party bona fides.

              Frank Lucas chairs the agriculture committee. GovTrack calls him a moderate Republican. No doubt Herrin wanted to grease the wheels to get something done on getting some water.


              Your citation in no way demonstrates that what Coulter said was a lie.
              Was there a more conservative candidate in the race that he could have donated to instead? There damn sure were more liberal candidates.

              Coulter is accusing the NYTimes of lying. Isn't she the one who should be offering proof? Given all the evidence presented so far, her case isn't looking good.
              Enjoy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Michele View Post
                Don't you ever get tired of always trying to come up with some sort of diversion from the main theme of a thread? Okay, for Norm, this fellow is a lifelong republican. Now that your boo-boo lip is all fixed, you can moveon.
                Simple accuracy is offensive to some people.
                Enjoy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                  Simple accuracy is offensive to some people.
                  It was satire. Just because it was shitty, well worn satire that was mildly humorous back when Hefner could get an erection without the aid of some sort of pill doesn't make it a lie.
                  Last edited by Billy Jingo; Friday, April 4, 2014, 3:41 PM.
                  Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

                  Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                    It was satire. Just because it was shitty, well worn satire that was mildly humorous back when Hefner could get an erection without the aid of some sort of pill doesn't make it a lie.
                    Shhh. They're defending it as truth.

                    On edit: And actually, since Ann is setting up to attack the man, I think she felt it was important to establish that he isn't really a real Republican. It wasn't just an insignificant bit of "we need a laugh line somewhere in here."
                    Last edited by Norm dePlume; Friday, April 4, 2014, 4:00 PM.
                    Enjoy.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                      Shhh. They're defending it as truth.
                      No, I gave your need to deflect. How about talking about the article?
                      May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
                      Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
                      And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
                      may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                        It was satire. Just because it was shitty, well worn satire that was mildly humorous back when Hefner could get an erection without the aid of some sort of pill doesn't make it a lie.
                        Kind of creepy there, Bok.
                        May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
                        Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
                        And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
                        may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Michele View Post
                          Kind of creepy there, Bok.
                          Yea. I should have gone with a Warhol reference instead. Maybe The Breakfast Club. I just wanted it to evoke a long time ago but in our lifetime.
                          Colonel Vogel : What does the diary tell you that it doesn't tell us?

                          Professor Henry Jones : It tells me, that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try *reading* books instead of *burning* them!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Michele View Post
                            No, I gave your need to deflect. How about talking about the article?
                            Sure.
                            Last year alone, California taxpayers paid $32 million for indigents' health care at hospitals located in Fresno County-- which happens to be where Chuck Herrin's company is based. How about submitting a portion of that cost to Herrin?

                            Here's your bill for $13 million.

                            What's this for?

                            The county hospital. You've been paying your employees $20 an hour, and that's just not enough to pay for their measles and tuberculosis treatments, not to mention delivery of their premature babies. No one's saying it's your fault, but it's not the county hospital's fault either.
                            Sounds like Ann feels that employers have a responsibility to pay for the health care of their employees, doesn't it? And I'm not sure where she got that $20/hr figure, but that's a gool deal higher than the proposed minimum wage that Republicans are dead set against.
                            Enjoy.

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