LGBTQ+ Pride and Sexualization

[phillygirl]

Well, there's a few people you need to notify of this.

Who?

[Lady Marva]

She literally said, "Dear god, of course drag shows are inappropriate for children." and you think she's lying.

And then she took her daughter to see one. Oh, OK. Maybe 13 is supposed to not still be a child. Maybe in San Fransisco where gays have their own section of a city to walk around naked in. And have whole parades to show off their perverseness.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I suppose I should have been more explicit for the context-impaired.

Drag nightclub shows, like most nightclub shows, are inappropriate for children. Brunch in a restaurant (with picture windows on a street in a very nice area) in downtown Richmond, VA, a city that embodies decorum, during which fully clothed people in costume sing show tunes and pop standards, is suitable for pretty much all audiences.

[Adam]

I see another headline this morning about another Disney flick setting a "first" — Disney's ‘Strange World’ to feature gay teen romance (nydailynews.com) —as if there's some sort of challenged to first in animation. "New animated film to feature first karate practicing turtles"

What I miss about pre-woke animation is the studied asexual nature of the characters, the tension sustained between their glamorized bodies and their obliviousness "to PDAs and beyond!" as Buzz Lightyear might have said. Superman never frollicked with Lois Lane, and so readers were spared grappling with puns about the Man of Steel.

Peter Parker and Mary Jane were drawn much in the same tradition. Oh well. Another thing I miss is dialogue. Pick up an old Spiderman comic and you feel like you're opening a Dickens novella, compared to the monosyllabic "graphic novels" and such on the market now.

I also see that the new Lightyear feature is a bust at the boxoffice, and I suspect I'm not alone in my reaction.

Well, turns out that one was a real bust, too. Currently expected to lose $100M or more at the box office, and cancellations of Disney+ have gone through the roof. Disney went woke, and they're going broke (though they have plenty of money in reserves). I've heard rumblings that The Mandalorian is going to get shelved. I'm certainly not going to watch it, certainly not after what they did to Gina Carano, and I've already cancelled our Disney account anyway. A shame, really, because it was indeed a very cool series. I've also heard that the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special or whatever it was turned out to be a bomb, too.

So they're bleeding money from the femoral artery, so much so that they've brought back Iger to run the joint. One of the first things he did was have a "town hall" with employees to say that they're going to stop doing politics and culture war stuff. I have to assume that means that they're going to get rid of that broad who said that they would be "pushing queerness" in all of their programming and in their theme parks.

We'll see if Iger manages to right the ship at least somewhat, though he was originally letting this shit happen under his leadership in the first place. Too little, too late, AFAIC. They've ruined the brand for a very large segment of America, and I have no intention of returning to them for anything, be it a theme park or a movie. Poor Walt is doubtless rolling over in his grave.

I sure miss the days of The Wonderful World of Walt Disney on Sunday nights. They've just shot that to shit.

[Gramps]

I sure miss the days of The Wonderful World of Walt Disney on Sunday nights. They've just shot that to shit.

Started in the early 50's. In color no less.
We had no tv but on occasion I was invited to watch with my rich neighbor. A treat. The color wasn't vivid, but it was color. It was pure fantasy for a kid.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

Started in the early 50's. In color no less.
We had no tv but on occasion I was invited to watch with my rich neighbor. A treat. The color wasn't vivid, but it was color. It was pure fantasy for a kid.

Our grandparents had color. I don't think we actually did until I was at least in my teens. Color was a treat, for sure. OTOH, our imaginations always supplied the color, albeit not necessarily correctly. Years later, Nova and I would be talking about some outfit that someone wore in a TV show* and we would find that we had each imagined it to be a different color.

*Usually Barbara Stanwyck. We both loved her outfits in The Big Valley.

[Michele]

As young kids we had to be headed upstairs for bed at 8pm. So after dinner and dishes on Sunday nights, we took our baths, brushed our teeth and got our pajamas on and waited for The Wonderful World of Disney. We loved watching the nature shows even though there was some heartbreaking moments...that's nature. I didn't really care for the cartoons but for some reason, I think that's where we first saw Darby O'Gill and the Little People which still plays in the background of our St Paddy's Day dinner...in the last few years, we've added The Secret of Roan Inish. 🍀

[Michele]

Well, turns out that one was a real bust, too. Currently expected to lose $100M or more at the box office, and cancellations of Disney+ have gone through the roof. Disney went woke, and they're going broke (though they have plenty of money in reserves). I've heard rumblings that The Mandalorian is going to get shelved. I'm certainly not going to watch it, certainly not after what they did to Gina Carano, and I've already cancelled our Disney account anyway. A shame, really, because it was indeed a very cool series. I've also heard that the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special or whatever it was turned out to be a bomb, too.

So they're bleeding money from the femoral artery, so much so that they've brought back Iger to run the joint. One of the first things he did was have a "town hall" with employees to say that they're going to stop doing politics and culture war stuff. I have to assume that means that they're going to get rid of that broad who said that they would be "pushing queerness" in all of their programming and in their theme parks.

We'll see if Iger manages to right the ship at least somewhat, though he was originally letting this shit happen under his leadership in the first place. Too little, too late, AFAIC. They've ruined the brand for a very large segment of America, and I have no intention of returning to them for anything, be it a theme park or a movie. Poor Walt is doubtless rolling over in his grave.

I sure miss the days of The Wonderful World of Walt Disney on Sunday nights. They've just shot that to shit.

We have had a tradition forever of watching the new movies that come out around the holidays. We were waiting for the sequel to Enchanted and then realized it premiered on Disney+...disappointing! So many movies are now being released through streaming services...I guess this is how it's going to be but I'm not liking it.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

We have had a tradition forever of watching the new movies that come out around the holidays. We were waiting for the sequel to Enchanted and then realized it premiered on Disney+...disappointing! So many movies are now being released through streaming services...I guess this is how it's going to be but I'm not liking it.

We ended up using a free trial of YouTube TV to watch the Macy's Parade. The $4.99/month Peacock subscription only had it at 6 AM on the West Coast.

I pay through the nose for the damned internet connection and it now only gets me some obscure off-brand channels, not the main ones. I would be perfectly happy with access only to regular old NBC or ABC or CBS - I don't even need all 3, just one that actually carries the parade and dog show at a decent hour - but no.

Wonder what kind of reception we'd get on rabbit ears here.....

[scott]

We ended up using a free trial of YouTube TV to watch the Macy's Parade. The $4.99/month Peacock subscription only had it at 6 AM on the West Coast.

I pay through the nose for the damned internet connection and it now only gets me some obscure off-brand channels, not the main ones. I would be perfectly happy with access only to regular old NBC or ABC or CBS - I don't even need all 3, just one that actually carries the parade and dog show at a decent hour - but no.

Wonder what kind of reception we'd get on rabbit ears here.....

Probably quite good, you should give it a try. Monterey and Salinas broadcast the big 4. Buy the cheapest TV antenna you can find at Walmart to test it out.

Here's a list of over the air stations in Monterey

https://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=print_market&mktid=154

[Frostbit]

My neighbor uses rabbit ears but he needed a digital to analog converter.

[scott]

My neighbor uses rabbit ears but he needed a digital to analog converter.

Jeez, how old is that TV? The oldest TV I have is from 2001 and it has digital and analog tuners.

[Newman]

Started in the early 50's. In color no less.
We had no tv but on occasion I was invited to watch with my rich neighbor. A treat. The color wasn't vivid, but it was color. It was pure fantasy for a kid.

Yes! That describes my experience also (and Celeste's to a large extent.)

We bought a TV around that time but it was B&W. My grandparents whom we saw once or twice a year had a color TV and I remember the Disney colors like it was last week. Or decades ago, I get them mixed up.

We had to adjust the color almost every time we turned their TV set on, and it was never perfect.

In those days we had adjusted to a world cast in black and white, so much so that colorized pictures of World War II lacked credibility. I remember the garish colorization that was so controversial when Ted Turner started overhauling his library of movies.

I think an earlier generation was similarly mesmerized by radio.

[scott]

Yes! That describes my experience also (and Celeste's to a large extent.)

We bought a TV around that time but it was B&W. My grandparents whom we saw once or twice a year had a color TV and I remember the Disney colors like it was last week. Or decades ago, I get them mixed up.

We had to adjust the color almost every time we turned their TV set on, and it was never perfect.

In those days we had adjusted to a world cast in black and white, so much so that colorized pictures of World War II lacked credibility. I remember the garish colorization that was so controversial when Ted Turner started overhauling his library of movies.

I think an earlier generation was similarly mesmerized by radio.

And newspapers before that:

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[Gramps]

And newspapers before that:

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