Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Gender Identity in the Classroom Canada Style

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post


    When I was a HS sophomore,
    Thread derail alert, I'm taking a spur track.

    When my extremely intelligent (1600 on the SAT's now in her neuroscience doctorate program), educated great niece came up to visit I learned that starting any discussion or history lesson with a back in the day prefix automatically brought on resistance. She's been indoctrinated that boomers ruined everything and thus have no valid historical relevance.

    Sad!!
    If it pays, it stays

    Comment


    • #17
      This is in Canada. But I agree that an American teacher should not be permitted to appear in a classroom dressed like this.

      My school was similar to Celeste's, despite our slightly different ages. Administration wore suits. Many of the male teachers wore suits, or at least suitish pants and often a tie. Some, full suits. Female teachers dressed at least in business or business casualish attire (skirt, dress, or nice slacks and top, often a blouse with or without the mandatory attached flouncy tie at the collar and/or neckerchief).
      Students did not wear regular shorts to school. There was a time in high school that knickers were in style (shoot me!) as well as woolen or corduroy "Bermuda" shorts for girls. They were worn with stockings or tights underneath. In the warm weather I'm aware of a least one student who was forced to go home because her camisole top was deemed too revealing. While some students did wear t-shirts with printing on them, if I were to wear one to school it was because I'd stashed it in my backpack and changed into it after leaving the house (or it was during the time period that we had no adult supervision in the home prior to getting up and going to school, so I could get away with more). I wasn't permitted (by my parents...mostly mother) to wear pants to school until the 4th grade. And really only after my mother saw the class picture with me in pants. She would have me wear pants under my dress to stand at the bustop. She discovered in the picture that I was not removing them upon arrival at school. She finally relented in allowing me to wear pants since 1. everyone else did; and 2. I looked stupid with having on both pants and a dress. But my parents were very strict about how we dressed for school. My mother was likewise appalled when I would come home from school and my white knee socks had visible lines of dirt on them. It was clear from that that 1. I was actually playing on the playground during recess (rather than just apparently sitting there, looking pretty, as was my older sister's recess experience) and 2. at no point during the day would it dawn on me to actually pull up the knee socks that had fallen to my ankles due to the fact that my legs were so skinny. There was many an argument in my home about me and my lack of fashion sense or care about how disheveled I became while at school. I was not the model child model that my sister was. So much disappointment!
      Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
      Robert Southwell, S.J.

      Comment


      • #18
        Originally posted by Newman View Post

        It's IMPOSSIBLE for these dickless administrators. And I mean "dickless" in the meanest most disparaging way available.

        All it really takes is for an administrators with character and fortitude to stand up for the education of his or her (actually I should properly use the pronouns it/its) charges, the students. If it's the judgment of more sensible administrators that modest attire is necessary for the kids, it shouuldn't be hard to say that applies to the full-grown people in the classroom as well.

        Celeste's logic on the subject is impeccable. If there's some conflict between the interests of the students and the letter of some regulation, Thou Shall Not Interfere With Anything Weird Done Under The Banner of LGBQ+, perhaps, then courage requires resolving the conflict in favor of the minors involved.

        That's what should be expected of those charged with supervising the adults, i.e., the administrators. If they can't do it, they should quite or be fired.

        They should go live in some wussy country like Canada. Oh, wait....
        Like I said, I agree with you. Clamp down on this dude and he sues the school system for millions. THATS where the real problem is.

        Mark
        Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

        "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

        Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

        Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

        Comment


        • #19
          Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
          how are progressives terrible in this particular example?
          Pushing trans issues to absolute absurdity to provoke "transphobic" responses.
          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."

          -John Locke

          Comment


          • #20
            Originally posted by scott View Post

            Pushing trans issues to absolute absurdity to provoke "transphobic" responses.
            Ahh. I just think the dude has fetishes that he thinks should be seen by everyone. It's conservatives that are circulating this particular photo in response to a progressive's attempt to protect regular transgendered appearances. But perhaps you're correct and this dude is a warrior.
            Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
            Robert Southwell, S.J.

            Comment


            • #21
              Originally posted by phillygirl View Post

              Ahh. I just think the dude has fetishes that he thinks should be seen by everyone. It's conservatives that are circulating this particular photo in response to a progressive's attempt to protect regular transgendered appearances. But perhaps you're correct and this dude is a warrior.
              I don't agree. Conservatives have a much broader libertarian streak than you allow in this post. Right now it's the left aggressively pushing the boundaries.

              • "We must make sure we don’t give platforms to those lying to our faces." — Brian Stelter, leading by example.
              • “I have absolutely no intention of the Democrats not winning the House in November." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining power.
              • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
              • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.
              • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
              • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
              • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by phillygirl View Post

                Ahh. I just think the dude has fetishes that he thinks should be seen by everyone. It's conservatives that are circulating this particular photo in response to a progressive's attempt to protect regular transgendered appearances. But perhaps you're correct and this dude is a warrior.
                I think the wide circulation of this absurdity is to show how far progressives are pushing this. You'll note there is no progressive resistance to this.
                "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."

                -John Locke

                Comment


                • #23
                  Assuming there is a verifiable source for the photo, and this person really is a teacher who comes to school looking like this, it is, in fact, absurd.

                  Even so, OTOH, Phillygirl has a good point, which is that it is one absurdity, and the wide circulation is intended to stir up the "if you protect any of them, they'll all go to extremes like this one" reaction. IOW, as I said, using this one example as an excuse to harass everyone who identifies as transgendered.
                  "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                    Assuming there is a verifiable source for the photo, and this person really is a teacher who comes to school looking like this, it is, in fact, absurd.

                    Even so, OTOH, Phillygirl has a good point, which is that it is one absurdity, and the wide circulation is intended to stir up the "if you protect any of them, they'll all go to extremes like this one" reaction. IOW, as I said, using this one example as an excuse to harass everyone who identifies as transgendered.
                    I don't believe ANY number of outrageous examples justifies harassing everyone who identifies as transgendered.

                    And likewise, no greater cause, such as the welfare of everyone who identifies as transgendered, justifies excusing the outrageous.

                    It's really a comment on our political divide and paranoia that we should even pause to think otherwise.
                    • "We must make sure we don’t give platforms to those lying to our faces." — Brian Stelter, leading by example.
                    • “I have absolutely no intention of the Democrats not winning the House in November." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining power.
                    • "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."— Barack Obama's 1st Rule of Joe Biden.
                    • "Put aside all of these issues of concern about liberties and personal liberties and realize we have a common enemy and that common enemy is the virus." — Dr. Anthony Fauci, misquoting Pogo.
                    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                    • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
                    • "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon, showing how to stop demonizing people.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X