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  • FTX, Democrats, and Ukraine

    Scroll down and read the entire write up about Sam Bankman-Fried

    LINK

    If it pays, it stays

  • #2
    10% to the big guy
    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
    -John Locke

    "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
    -Newman

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    • #3
      Originally posted by scott View Post
      10% to the big guy
      Exactly
      If it pays, it stays

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      • #4
        I was reading about that this morning. Unfuckingbelievable.

        Ukraine invested in top Dem donor's crypto company FTX as Biden admin funded war effort: report | The Post Millennial | thepostmillennial.com

        BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Tens of Billions of US Dollars Were Transferred to Ukraine and then Using FTX Crypto Currency the Funds Were Laundered Back to Democrats in US (thegatewaypundit.com)

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        • #5
          An amazing story. It appears corruption is everywhere,

          Mark
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          • #6
            I said a while back that we need to have a serious discussion about Ukraine and Russia and our involvement in that whole imbroglio.

            Everyone is framing this as "good guy vs. bad guy." It's not. Oh, there is no doubt that Russia is the aggressor here, don't get me wrong. But Ukraine is not a sainthood state, either. There's a reason that Ukraine is routinely considered the most corrupt country in Europe: because it IS the most corrupt country in Europe, and that's really saying something when you stand it up next to places like Romania.

            During David's time living in Russia, he spent about three years working with a farming conglomerate in Ukraine, sort of a Ukrainian ConAgra. The corruption was utterly astounding, and remember that he lived in Russia and Lithuania before Putin came to power back in 1996 or whenever that was, when the Russian mafia ran pretty much everything. When he was in Ukraine (kept an apartment in Kiev because he was going back and forth so much), I guess starting in about 2015, they were working with farming co-ops (for lack of a better description) to sort of "unionize" farming, and they had literally millions of acres of farming land under their control as a company. They standardized the farming business, which had been a one-off affair after the collapse of the Soviet Union. What happened to these farmers was that Ukrainian soldiers or police would simply come around when they felt like it and demand that these farmers "pay tribute." It was damn near feudal in nature, essentially a protection racket: "it would be a real shame if your entire wheat crop went up in flames overnight." And the same applies across the board: if you're, say, a cobbler who wants to open a shop in Kiev, you have to buy a business license, but if you don't bribe the proper official, then the paperwork for your license gets "lost," and if you don't pay the proper tribute, then your shop gets broken into overnight, and suddenly the next day all of the cops in town are wearing shiny new shoes, and you, the shopkeeper who's just trying to make an honest living, could very well find yourself on your way to a gulag for the crime of "selling unapproved merchandise" or some other trumped-up charge.

            So his company standardized farming, essentially making farming a franchise: if you raised chickens, then you fed your chickens X amount for 131 days or whatever and you get a yield of 26 eggs per chicken over that time (numbers picked at random; I don't know what the actual numbers were). His company then handled the sales of the eggs across Europe, and the farmers got a steady paycheck, plus they got private security to prevent the cops and the soldiers from coming to demand tribute pay. Same with wheat, soybeans, cows, you name it.

            On the Ukrainian tax forms, at least at that time, there was literally a line item for deductions of how much one paid in bribes. So, David's company kept careful records of which public officials had been bribed how much, and that got them a tax deduction for however many millions of hryvnia was paid out in bribes. And this is hardly rare, even today. Remember: Joe Biden got an anti-corruption prosecutor fired because he said he would withhold a billion-dollar bribe from the United States government, just so that his son could keep doing his shady business there.

            So this is commonplace there: the wealthy who can afford bribes skate by with virtually anything, but some poor farmer out in the hinterlands just gets fucked because some crooked cop wants a little extra money to hire a hooker.



            Now, on the flipside, Russia is only marginally less corrupt. When I was there in 2000, I was stopped by militsia (beat cops, effectively, in Russia) just outside the Kremlin because "my paperwork was not in order." I knew that this wasn't true, but I decided to let it play out. I was taken to a "police substation," barely bigger than a phone booth, and was eventually told that I would have to pay a fine: fifty rubles, which at the time equated to about six bucks. I just laughed and paid the "fine," because I knew what it really was and it wasn't worth dickering over such a small amount. Later that evening, I saw the same cop with a hooker walking across Red Square, so I knew that my bribe was apparently well-spent. When I told David about this later that night, he was furious. Why? Because he routinely had drinks with the mayor of Moscow in order for Deloitte & Touche to pay bribes to the mayor. It's just how things are done there.

            Now, Putin is definitely a bad guy. There's no doubt about that. He's had political opponents and journalists and dissidents in general killed. That's pretty much beyond question. Obviously, he invaded Crimea and is currently engaged in aggressive action in the Donbass, without any provocation. We can all take that as written. To his credit, though, he has actually done some good things: he's gone a long way to curb the corruption like I experienced in 2000, and he has been quite firm (by Russian standards) in protecting Jews across Russia, who have suffered terrible anti-semitism for centuries. That obviously does not somehow make him into an angel by any stretch, but we take the good with the bad.

            Russia is far from a garden-spot. I will be very glad when all three of my nieces can be free of the place. There is literally no one there who has ever actually experienced actual freedom, short of ex-pats from the US or Australia or whatever. They live their lives (as a country) just consuming whatever natural resources that they can find and then leave a hellscape in its place. Remember: that country is thirteen time zones wide, so there's a whole lot of vast nothingness out there. And there is a gigantic divide between the wealthy and the poor; Leftists here gripe about some sort of "income gap," but they have never seen anything like the divide between people who live in Moscow & St. Petersburg and the people who eke out an existence in Olenegorsk or Chekurovka or Rostov. And they're equally as voracious about using up human resources, because they just don't care. As David says: "no one from Moscow or St. Petersburg is fighting in Ukraine: they come from Novosibirsk and Ykatrinburg and Krasnoyarsk because those are people who can't afford to buy their way out of military service."



            So, ultimately, what we have here is not good guy vs. bad guy. What we have is bad guy vs. worse guy. And I think that it's well-past time to just disentangle ourselves from the whole mess. This is not our fight, this is not an existential threat to the United States, this is not like parking nukes 90 miles off the Florida coast. This is just one big, fat, corrupt mess that Joe Biden is eyeballs-deep in. IF, God-willing, Republicans manage to somehow take the House, then it's time to cut off the spigot. Get whatever "advisors" that we have on the ground out of there by hook or by crook, and GTFO. Ukraine wants to buy more weaponry? Smith & Wesson's phone lines are open as are Ruger's and a whole host of others. Cash on the barrel, baby.
            It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
            In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Adam View Post
              So, ultimately, what we have here is not good guy vs. bad guy. What we have is bad guy vs. worse guy. And I think that it's well-past time to just disentangle ourselves from the whole mess.
              More likely now that the elections are over and money diversion is not as needed.
              If it pays, it stays

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              • #8
                Connective tissue

                If it pays, it stays

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                • #9
                  Adam, I've had these very conversations with friends that "know things". They are appalled at the money suck that is Ukraine and that we continue to waste billions of taxpayer dollars that are literally not accounted for. There is no oversight on the funds that we send over there. That is purposeful.

                  On another note, a few months ago I was in the backwaters of Maryland and stopped in a little local museum. There happened to be a grad student manning it. He and I struck up a conversation. There was a couple in there and the wife semi-participated in the conversation. I don't even know what started it, except that whatever he was studying I found to be interesting and the topic of Ukraine came up. The woman immediately jumped on the whole "we have to save Ukraine, Putin in evil" bandwagon. I mentioned that while Putin is indeed bad, there is something to say about the fact that Putin's enemies were literally about to line up at his back door, via Ukraine asking to be part of NATO and that we wouldn't be real happy if Mexico and Canada decided to throw their lot in with Russia. Again, I made clear that Russia invading Ukraine was wrong, but Putin wasn't necessarily wrong for not liking the proposal. The grad student kid was enjoying the conversation and shared that one of his professors (he gave all appropriate cautions about him not knowing if any of this was true) had indicated that there was a theory that Putin was being blackmailed by his generals into invading and that Putin perhaps was semi-purposely f'ing up the whole boondogle to embarrass the generals.

                  Who knows? But bottom line, we are getting sucked in as Americans into one of the most corrupt societies ever; our government knows this and yet they don't care...or perhaps they do because the corruption, once again, benefits those at the top.
                  Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                  Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                  • #10
                    Two countries that Biden has been linked to for influence peddling... Ukraine and China. If this were Trump we would see a 3rd and 4th impeachment
                    Robert Francis O'Rourke, Democrat, White guy, spent ~78 million to defeat, Ted Cruz, Republican immigrant Dark guy …
                    and lost …
                    But the Republicans are racist.

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                    • #11
                      "I do not think we’ll see more crypto adoption by the general public, but we’ll see more countries moving towards Central Bank-issued digital currencies (CBDCs). How this market will evolve will depend on how CBDCs will be implemented," Sojli said.
                      LINK

                      The establishment of a CBDC in the US that eventually replaces our debasing fiat is another tinfoil hat theory on the reason behind SBF and the FTX debacle. With CBDC's a country can totally control how you spend your money, track your every financial move, and punish you for presently unaccepted behavior such as trying to buy diesel fuel instead of charging your car.

                      China is already doing so with the digital yuan.

                      Beware of a US sponsored CBDC.
                      If it pays, it stays

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                      • #12
                        If it pays, it stays

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                          Of course they did. The dude said he was gonna spend a billion dollars to get Democrats elected in 2024

                          Mark
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                          "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                          Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

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                          • #14
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                            If it pays, it stays

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                            • #15
                              There is not a facepalm in the world big enough.


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                              It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                              In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                              Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                              Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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