This is what happens when they let Debbie Stupidwoman-Schultz out of the basement

[Adam]

Wow. Just wow.

So, her argument is, it wasn't twenty-nine different recorded cases of Obama outright lying, because the overwhelming majority of Americans already had health plans or insurance in the first place.


So, what in the flaming FUCK are doing going forward with staggering failure, then?



Kill it! Kill it with fire!

[Gingersnap]

This is the latest spin but it's not helpful. People are getting cancelled even if they liked what they had since any change drops a policy out of the grandfather provision. All policies change every year or so as providers move in or out of the network, people get married or divorced or add kids, rates change, plan areas change, etc.

Beyond that, employers are starting to reevaluate their position in this market. Paying more and dropping out of the business makes a lot of sense. If that snowballs, there won't be an incentive to offer insurance benefits in the future. Companies are already dropping spouses who could get insurance at their own workplace even if that insurance is more expensive or more limited.

Screw the nuance - most voters who heard the President make that promise over and over again took it at face value. Most voters will not even hear the spin when they are opening that cancellation letter.

[deudyurondame]

Why does Rubio have "exactly zero credibility when it comes to quality affordable healthcare and whether or not Owebamacare gets implemented"?
Was this statement some sort of filling for air-time to preface the vaudevillian conglomeration of words that followed?

[deudyurondame]

Wow. Just wow.

So, her argument is, it wasn't twenty-nine different recorded cases of Obama outright lying, because the overwhelming majority of Americans already had health plans or insurance in the first place.

Oh, that was her...?... argument?

[Gramps]

This is the latest spin but it's not helpful. People are getting cancelled even if they liked what they had since any change drops a policy out of the grandfather provision. All policies change every year or so as providers move in or out of the network, people get married or divorced or add kids, rates change, plan areas change, etc.

Beyond that, employers are starting to reevaluate their position in this market. Paying more and dropping out of the business makes a lot of sense. If that snowballs, there won't be an incentive to offer insurance benefits in the future. Companies are already dropping spouses who could get insurance at their own workplace even if that insurance is more expensive or more limited.

Screw the nuance - most voters who heard the President make that promise over and over again took it at face value. Most voters will not even hear the spin when they are opening that cancellation letter.

Over 10 years ago, one of the best occupations in the Stl was carpenters, if you were in the union.
The benefits were extraordinary, especially the health care.
At some point, their 'leader' led a movement that pulled them out of the AFLCIO, and formed the Carpenters Council of Greater St Louis.
From that point it went down hill, especially the health coverage.
I think it was about 8 years ago the Council changed to disallow spouses if they could get insurance from their employer.
Then it got worse.
As the housing bubble burst, these guys who all had a harley and a big Ford, all the ot they could eat, were working out of the hall with no jobs.
But... no matter how many years they had been paying into the system, even if there was zero work, they had to pay dues every month to maintain membership, and they had to work so many hours per quarter, even if they paid dues, to maintain.
It is amazing to see those guys go from boom to bust in the wink of an eye, and all the while, the president of the Council maintained all of his bling.

[JB]

Wow. Just wow.

They lie like you and I breathe.

[Michele]

Wow. Just wow.

So, her argument is, it wasn't twenty-nine different recorded cases of Obama outright lying, because the overwhelming majority of Americans already had health plans or insurance in the first place.


So, what in the flaming FUCK are doing going forward with staggering failure, then?



Kill it! Kill it with fire!

I heard the best analogy of this yesterday and I hope it sticks; it was called the democrats Red Rover, Red Rover strategy. Some democrats are holding hands as to not let any lie told by this president and his administration get through their line and out to the public. But if you played the game as a child, you know that you dread the one big, strong kid that will finally break through and take everyone down with him.

Whether delusional or just being the experienced liar that she is, WS is part of the line.