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    Couple wants answers after racial slur found on key chain tag

    When Candea and her husband Sam got home they noticed the tag left by the man who they say valet parked their car, with the words "jungle fever," a derogatory slur used to describe interracial couples.

    EAST POINT, Ga. — A Georgia couple says they're still in shock after they were the target of racism at a popular local restaurant.

    A U.S. Army sergeant major just back from Kuwait and his wife went to Spondivits in East Point on New Year's Day, but what they found on their key ring when they got home left them deeply hurt.

    "I shouldn't have to feel this way," said Candea Aarons.

    When Candea and her husband Sam got home they noticed the tag left by the man who they say valet parked their car, with the words "jungle fever," a derogatory slur used to describe interracial couples.

    "We have never been so blatantly described in such a blatantly appalling manner ever," Candea Aarons said.

    Aarons said the ugly message left her and her husband deeply hurt.

    "We had no idea that the valet was looking at us or thinking of us in such a manner," she said.

    Channel 2 investigative reporter Aaron Diamant asked for an explanation, but Spondivits leaders refused our requests for an on camera interview.

    The restaurant's chef, Glenn Gane, told Diamant the valet worked for a contractor called APS Valet.

    In a statement, Gane said, "Spondivits does not tolerate racial speech of any kind."

    Later, APS Valet's owner told Diamant by phone that "the valet in question is no long working with APS. APS does not tolerate racism of any kind whatsoever."

    But Candea Aarons said the fact the valet got fired is little consolation.

    "I was unaware, I was unprepared and I was unaware racism is alive and well," she said.

    Neither Spondivits or APS Valet would identify the name of the fired valet, but the Aarons said the individual was African-American.
    I'll just wait for the hoax exposure or whatever. Besides, I was always told that non-whites can't be racist so if true, this message must be a friendly greeting which has been misinterpreted.

    AJC
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

  • #2
    Interesting twist. I have a feeling it's a true story. I also would bet the valet in question is under 23 years old and probably isn't as racist as the couple thinks he is. And I would think the same if he were white.
    Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
    Robert Southwell, S.J.

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    • #3
      A mixed race couple didn't expect racist slurs in East Point?

      Must've been their first time there.
      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
      -John Locke

      "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
        I'll just wait for the hoax exposure or whatever. Besides, I was always told that non-whites can't be racist so if true, this message must be a friendly greeting which has been misinterpreted.

        AJC
        Not sure how it is in other areas, but in Flint and Detroit this would not be unusual.
        It seems that the black man / white woman dynamic is the more "socially acceptable" format for both races and sexes.
        However black woman / white man will generally earn you the stink eye from black men and black or white women.
        We are so fucked.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
          Interesting twist. I have a feeling it's a true story. I also would bet the valet in question is under 23 years old and probably isn't as racist as the couple thinks he is. And I would think the same if he were white.
          That term is just a historical curiosity even for my generation. There are plenty of more contemporary slurs out there. Why would a young person use a term like that? It's not like he's probably super well read and using it ironically.

          And why would a black man care? It's black women who seem very upset over interracial relationships.
          "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
            That term is just a historical curiosity even for my generation. There are plenty of more contemporary slurs out there. Why would a young person use a term like that? It's not like he's probably super well read and using it ironically.

            And why would a black man care? It's black women who seem very upset over interracial relationships.

            That's just it, I don't think a young person necessarily thinks of it as a real slur. After Spike Lee, whose movie that person probably didn't see, I believe it's just an old school term for describing an interracial relationship. Perhaps I'm wrong on that. Just my gut reaction.
            Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
            Robert Southwell, S.J.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
              That's just it, I don't think a young person necessarily thinks of it as a real slur. After Spike Lee, whose movie that person probably didn't see, I believe it's just an old school term for describing an interracial relationship. Perhaps I'm wrong on that. Just my gut reaction.
              Could be, I guess, but if he didn't think it was a slur, why write it? So many of these things turn out to hoaxes or bad jokes or whatever now. It's hard to care.
              "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                Could be, I guess, but if he didn't think it was a slur, why write it? So many of these things turn out to hoaxes or bad jokes or whatever now. It's hard to care.
                I guess I don't mean to say that it's not a "slur", just that it's not a serious one. Hard for me to put in writing. Kind of the difference between referring to an Italian as a "guido" versus a "dago". As for why he wrote it, my guess is that is how he described them so he'd remember which car was theirs.
                Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                  I guess I don't mean to say that it's not a "slur", just that it's not a serious one. Hard for me to put in writing. Kind of the difference between referring to an Italian as a "guido" versus a "dago". As for why he wrote it, my guess is that is how he described them so he'd remember which car was theirs.
                  That sounds plausible, I guess. I have to say I've never had a valet ticket like that. It's always the car make/model/color or the license plate or both or just the ticket number. I've never seen a ticket that said, "Strange Redhead".
                  "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                    That sounds plausible, I guess. I have to say I've never had a valet ticket like that. It's always the car make/model/color or the license plate or both or just the ticket number. I've never seen a ticket that said, "Strange Redhead".
                    That's because they were smart enough to take the tag off before giving you back your car!
                    Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                      That's just it, I don't think a young person necessarily thinks of it as a real slur. After Spike Lee, whose movie that person probably didn't see, I believe it's just an old school term for describing an interracial relationship. Perhaps I'm wrong on that. Just my gut reaction.
                      Nope, I'm pretty sure he meant it in a derisive manner. Usually most people of a more recent vintage say 'swirl'. As in...



                      Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                      That term is just a historical curiosity even for my generation. There are plenty of more contemporary slurs out there. Why would a young person use a term like that? It's not like he's probably super well read and using it ironically.

                      And why would a black man care? It's black women who seem very upset over interracial relationships.
                      He knew. They look old enough to where "jungle fever'' WOULD be offensive.

                      Ownership. Most black women have been warned away from white men, having been told that white men only want one thing and that the best thing for a black woman is a black man. Black men, like all men, want to feel like they are the master of their domain, and when society has told them that all white people want to take everything from them... it gets very personal when, as rare as it it is, a black woman shrugs off that expectation and goes outside.

                      Trust me on this one.

                      ~Dallas
                      Last edited by Dallas; Friday, January 3, 2014, 11:43 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dallas View Post
                        Nope, I'm pretty sure he meant it in a derisive manner. Usually most people of a more recent vintage say 'swirl'. As in...





                        He knew. They look old enough to where "jungle fever'' WOULD be offensive.

                        Ownership. Most black women have been warned away from white men, having been told that white men only want one thing and that the best thing for a black woman is a black man. Black men, like all men, want to feel like they are the master of their domain, and when society has told them that all white people want to take everything from them... it gets very personal when, as rare as it it is, a black woman shrugs off that expectation and goes outside.

                        Trust me on this one.

                        ~Dallas
                        So, was it racist?
                        Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                        Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scott View Post
                          A mixed race couple didn't expect racist slurs in East Point?

                          Must've been their first time there.
                          Heh! No shit.
                          It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                          In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                          Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                          Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                            I'll just wait for the hoax exposure or whatever. Besides, I was always told that non-whites can't be racist so if true, this message must be a friendly greeting which has been misinterpreted.
                            In his own way, I am sure he thought it was a compliment.
                            The year's at the spring
                            And day's at the morn;
                            Morning's at seven;
                            The hill-side's dew-pearled;
                            The lark's on the wing;
                            The snail's on the thorn:
                            God's in his heaven—
                            All's right with the world!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by scott View Post
                              A mixed race couple didn't expect racist slurs in East Point?

                              Must've been their first time there.
                              Something special about East Point? Is it the black Forsythe County?
                              The year's at the spring
                              And day's at the morn;
                              Morning's at seven;
                              The hill-side's dew-pearled;
                              The lark's on the wing;
                              The snail's on the thorn:
                              God's in his heaven—
                              All's right with the world!

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